Mk2 Chopper Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Kevo_6 said: Hi Gareth Here is a pic of my car with 165s Michelin XAS. Got to love a rolling shot, the 165's look perfect by the way! Thanks for sharing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KiwiTR6 Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Kevo_6 said: Hi Tom, I’ve been very happy with them and they were a lot better than the Vredestein Sprint Classics but to be fair they were a bit old. Hi Kev. What size are the 165's? 165/80-15 or 165/85-15? Also, is your ride height standard or lowered? Your car looks great with the 165's tempting me to look at changing from the current 195's! Gavin Edited November 22, 2018 by KiwiTR6 Extra question Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mk2 Chopper Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 Gavin the XAS is only available in 165/80-15, I also wondered about the ride height, but I think it's just two people on board, it certainly looks great, a proper nimble sports roadster! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mick Forey Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 This and other debates about tyres and their cost reminds me of an advert for the Original Bell full face helmet which was the first on the UK market and considerably more expensive than any other helmet. Their strap line was "How much is your head worth?" Food for thought. Mick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevo_6 Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 17 hours ago, KiwiTR6 said: Hi Kev. What size are the 165's? 165/80-15 or 165/85-15? Also, is your ride height standard or lowered? Your car looks great with the 165's tempting me to look at changing from the current 195's! Gavin Hi Gavin, Gareth above answered the tyre size question and my car is slightly lowered and stiffer springs. Thanks for your kind comments. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mk2 Chopper Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 In that case Kev, what springs are they, I want my car to look as good as yours! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevo_6 Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, Mk2 Chopper said: In that case Kev, what springs are they, I want my car to look as good as yours! Hi Gareth, thanks for your kind comments. I have the slightly lowered/uprated (TT4001Front & Rear TT4212) springs with standard shocks on the front and uprated levers on the back which I’m pretty sure I got from the TR Shop. Incidentally I don't have any issues with speed bumps and the ride is nice and I think the stance is justright (for me). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mk2 Chopper Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Kevo_6 said: ....I think the stance is just right (for me). And me! Thanks for the info Gareth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marc R Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 My return on experience (with 3 TR6 since '86) will confirm some recommendations. Back on the '80, after the original 165 R15, I tested the 185/70 R15 and then in the '90 the 195/65 R15... since my 1st choice is for 165 R15 (165/80-82 R15), 2nd choice 185/70 R15 and definitively not over 185, even if the cost is attractive on the 195/65 R15. Regards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mk2 Chopper Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 Thanks Marc, should feel rather different on 165's than the 205's I'm running now! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KiwiTR6 Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, Kevo_6 said: Hi Gareth, thanks for your kind comments. I have the slightly lowered/uprated (TT4001Front & Rear TT4212) springs with standard shocks on the front and uprated levers on the back which I’m pretty sure I got from the TR Shop. Incidentally I don't have any issues with speed bumps and the ride is nice and I think the stance is justright (for me). Thanks Kev, that's exactly what I also was wanting to know. Good to hear you don't have any clearance issues and the stance - it's perfect! Gavin Edited November 24, 2018 by KiwiTR6 spelling/grammar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KiwiTR6 Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 Does anyone know the Rimmer's equivalent (if there is one) of the TT4001 and TT4212 springs that Kev has fitted to his car? Possibly RR1414?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mk2 Chopper Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 According to the information I found on Moss the TT4001 is rated at 390lbs and is slightly lower and the TT4212 is rated at 420lbs and is standard ride height, elsewhere those two springs are said to be standard ride height, I suspect that they are shorter than stock but being stiffer come out nearly at stock or slightly lower than, if that helps find something similar? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mk2 Chopper Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) Just looked at Rimmers RR1414 and you've got 420lbs and one inch lower at front and rear is just described as uprated Edited November 24, 2018 by Mk2 Chopper Correction Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KiwiTR6 Posted November 25, 2018 Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 22 hours ago, Mk2 Chopper said: Just looked at Rimmers RR1414 and you've got 420lbs and one inch lower at front and rear is just described as uprated Thanks Gareth. I've just emailed Rimmers asking for specs of front and rears in the set. I'll post the details once I've heard back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mk2 Chopper Posted November 25, 2018 Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 That's great I'll look forward to your findings Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevo_6 Posted November 25, 2018 Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 Hi This is the information I had from an old Moss catalogue (Probably 4-5 years old), maybe I bought them from Moss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mk2 Chopper Posted November 25, 2018 Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 Thanks Kev, did you notice or measure a drop when they were fitted? That confirms they are shorter than stock but as they are stronger it might negate much of the lowering effect, although on the front they do say slightly lowered, so they should level out a typically rear down TR6. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevo_6 Posted November 25, 2018 Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Mk2 Chopper said: Thanks Kev, did you notice or measure a drop when they were fitted? That confirms they are shorter than stock but as they are stronger it might negate much of the lowering effect, although on the front they do say slightly lowered, so they should level out a typically rear down TR6. Hi Gareth I think it was about 15mm lower with new springs but I don’t know how tired the old ones were. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mk2 Chopper Posted November 25, 2018 Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 Good info thanks, I've ear marked them, and after I get the 165's sorted I'll look at my ride height and sort as necessary. Many thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KiwiTR6 Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 9:51 PM, Mk2 Chopper said: That's great I'll look forward to your findings This is the second response I received from Rimmers after I asked for the expected change in ride height rather than the difference in spring height they quoted originally: Thanks for the email, the free length difference in approx. 20mm, so you should see between 10/15mm drop in ride height. This indicates that they are the same or very similar to the Moss springs based on the ride height change given by Kev. Not really low enough for me as my car sits quite high on new standard springs and I'd like to drop it by at least 25mm if I can. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mk2 Chopper Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 Nice update, so you'll be going for the next ones that lower an inch? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rogcastle Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 Hi Kev Did you have your foot to the floor when driving in the pic as it looks like your car has the classic squat when accelerating, which is one of the many many things that we love about our TR6's. regards Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevo_6 Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 45 minutes ago, Rogcastle said: Hi Kev Did you have your foot to the floor when driving in the pic as it looks like your car has the classic squat when accelerating, which is one of the many many things that we love about our TR6's. regards Roger Hi Roger, most definitely the foot to the floor. Is there any other way? We just love TR6 Quirks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fremont Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 Michelin offer the XWX in 185-70 which is what I have on my driver. Dead ringers for the 165-80 in diameter, just 20mm wider. I haven't pushed them to the limit but they're lovely generally, and make the same note at 30+ mph as the XAS do ( I had these in 185 on my show car with 3.7:1 diff before it was made over, and they were phenomenal. NLA in that size, I just put XVS on to replace them due to age ). I would have used the XAS but my wheels are 6" - too wide. Cheers, Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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