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Hi Folks,

whilst the 4A is in dock I'm working my round it to winkle out all the little problems.

 

The diff is leaking oil on the offside output shaft.

 

Can the seal be replaced insitu?

 

 

Roger

 

PS - I've done a search but couldn't get anywhere

 

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You will need to undo the 4 bolts holding the stub shaft assy into the diff. (1/2" AF spanner size - I use a thin wall ring spanner as an open ender just ruins the hex heads.) The shaft assembly will then come out with the use of a hide mallet, as the bearing is a snug fit in the diff casing. NB The shaft assemblies are handed left and right by virtue of being different lengths.

 

THEN Undo the big nut holding the drive flange then pull the flange off the taper. You can of course try to undo the flange nut with it all assembled in the axle if you have sufficient swinging room and a way of stopping the rest of the diff from rotating.

 

Haynes instruction now - "after removing nut just press off the taper fitted flange from the stub shaft" Enjoy.....I have managed to do it with the big screw press I own that is ex US Army circa 1944 and was designed to remove Sherman tank drive wheels - don't ask.....

 

When at C&B we used to pay a man with a 10 ton press to give them a whack. Worked every time without damage.

 

Next trick will be to polish the seal land on the flange, remove seal, note which way round it went, replace and reassemble the whole lot perhaps with a new bearing if you suspect that was the reason the seal was leaking. The bearing is a fairly ordinary ball type.

 

The horror now is holding the stub shaft from turning whilst undoing or tightening the flange nut.

I have a diff planet gear (the bit the shaft fits into) with two flats ground on it to hold in a vice for this very task. Once the flange is off, pushing the bearing off the shaft is simple.

 

Let me know if you want to borrow the mullered planet gear or swing by for a bit of 'screw puller action'.

 

I used to do an exchange service on these things when at C&B in the '80s.

 

Cheers

Peter W

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Hi Roger

 

I have a puller to remove the flange from the taper ( made by TVG member Mark the blacksmith) several of us have used it successfully to replace the diff seals, you are very welcome to borrow it.

 

Cheers

 

Bill

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Hi Roger.

 

I struggled to separate the tapers when I did this on my 6 recently.

 

Then I came up with a cunning plan, bolt the two stubs together in opposition and tighten until one lets go.

Then using washers and a suitably sized socket repeat for the other !

 

See attached pic, it worked a treat :-)

 

 

 

Steve

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All sorted.

Using Bill's puller the shaft shot out of the body with little fuss.

The old seal was well worn. The seal fitted nicely and felt much more secure.

Interestingly the plate that attaches to the diff doesn't have a gasket - hmm. So I used an nice layer of hylomar.

Even with a goodish leak the diff was still quite full of oily substances.

 

With the correct tools this job is easy peasy.

 

Tomorrow the engine comes out in order to fit the gearbox!!! :o

 

Roger

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Hi Niall,

ref the parts pic from Moss www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=2355

 

The flange (44) was pulled off the shaft (46). This allowed the seal (49) to be renewed in the bearing housing (51).

 

With Bill's simple puller it worked a treat.

 

Roger

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Hi Roger.

 

I struggled to separate the tapers when I did this on my 6 recently.

 

Then I came up with a cunning plan, bolt the two stubs together in opposition and tighten until one lets go.

Then using washers and a suitably sized socket repeat for the other !

 

See attached pic, it worked a treat :-)

 

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Steve

Just done this and it worked a treat :D

Thanks Steve.

Alan.

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Rodger, doo em both while its in bits.

 

tiptoptip, some times the flange is rusted / pitted,

or got a groove worn init, if this is so, then some of the newer type seals

that are v nara, compared to the OE leather seals, and they dont seal v well

 

there is plenty of room to get 2 seals in there, so it,ll never leak

 

Your v lucky it come off easily, ye seen what happend to the one every one was commenting on aboot using supa glue or JB Weld.!!!

 

M

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