Rear brake shoes, quality

[AarhusTr6]

Hello all

I am doing a backend rebuild of my TR and driving from Denmark - presently visiting my son in the town of Mechelen where there is a large parts supplier called Anglo Parts. I was thinking about popping into Anglo parts and buying some new brake shoes, but I can see they are €51 compared to £21 from Moss.

I’m travelling to the UK for Christmas so can get the Moss ones back in my hand luggage but I’m just wondering if there is any quality difference and why such big difference in price?

Anglo parts:

https://www.angloparts.com/en/part/053.065

Moss:

[RogerH]

Hi Richard,

it is possible (but unlikely) that the Anglo Parts have better quality linings (Racing linings). The Moss ones will be the standard lining..

Why not pop in and speak to the Anglo people.

 

Roger

[john.r.davies]

There's 'quality', on which I agree with Roger, some brake material might as well be cardboard and there's 'grade'.   (Whole books have been written on 'quality', notably Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, but we'll ignore that Chautauqua !)

The grade of brake material depends on the temperature at which it is designed to operate.   Ordinary, road brakes will grip from cold, but if used until they heat up beyond their designed range, will 'fade'.      Race brakes may not work very well from cold, which can be a bit embarrassing as you back out of the garage - and can't stop at the wall outside! -  but will go on working when the brakes are nearly red hot.    Reputable manufacturers all produce brake materials in those grades, and also in what may be called "fast road" materials that work in a middle range.   Typical is Mintex's range of 1144 (road), 1155(fast road) and 1166 (full race) materials.    Possibly because they cost more to make, or because the market is much less, the higher temperature brakes cost more.    Ask your suppliers what they are selling.

John

[RogerH]

Hi Folks,

I see Moss do a standard 4A rear shoe at apprx £33/pair and  uprated shoes at apprx £120

Do we know what material the uprated version is and is it any good on a standard road car.

 

Roger

[John L]

If you collect from Moss and your invoice address is in EU there will be no VAT to pay, but you would have to collect from them, not delivered to a UK address, or they will charge VAT.

John

[AarhusTr6]

Angloparts wrote and they are made by Powertune

[RogerH]

Richard,

 that may be a good price as the uprated one (Triumph Tune) from Moss is £120  which is on back order

 

Roger

[AarhusTr6]

Just now, RogerH said:

Richard,

 that may be a good price as the uprated one (Triumph Tune) from Moss is £120  which is on back order

 

Roger

Thanks Roger !!

[stuart]

19 hours ago, AarhusTr6 said:

Angloparts wrote and they are made by Powertune

Nothing wrong with Powertune, we use those.

Stuart.

[TRTOM2498PI]

On 12/9/2023 at 1:08 PM, RogerH said:

Hi Folks,

I see Moss do a standard 4A rear shoe at apprx £33/pair and  uprated shoes at apprx £120

Do we know what material the uprated version is and is it any good on a standard road car.

 

Roger

I use a competition material on the brake shoes of my TR6.  It is a fast road/track car.  There is certainly a difference in efficiency between these & standard, in particular, hand brake performance.

 

Cheers.

 

[RogerH]

Hi Tom,

 thanks for that.  What make/supplier would there be.

 

Roger

[BlueTR3A-5EKT]

Historically C&B then latterly Moss used Canons of Clapham for their shoe re lining.    That was when the big Girling 10”x2.25” shoes were unobtainable    We also had an option of VG 95 friction material for the racers.    The shoes were strictly exchange and cost about £70 for an axle.

Does this help?

https://saftek.co.uk/friction-products-for-classic-vehicles-and-race-applications/

 

Bonding & Relining Service

Saftek’s brake shoe and clutch plate bonding and re-lining service is available from our factory in Cleckheaton, West Yorkshire. We provide fast turnaround and a UK wide collection and delivery service.

With 100 years combined experience of specialist re-lining we provide a high quality service using our range of non-asbestos materials.  We strip off  the old material from your brake shoes and clutch plates, and bond and/or rivet  new material to suit your application.  Oversized thickness linings and drum skimming are available.  ‘Soft’ or ‘hard’ grade materials may be specified depending on the application required.

For vintage and classic relining please contact Cleckheaton on 01274 862666 or click here to send an enquiry

Send parts for relining to: Saftek, Rawfolds Industrial Estate, Bradford Rd, Cleckheaton BD19 5LT

 

Edited December 11, 2023 by BlueTR3A-5EKT

[TRTOM2498PI]

28 minutes ago, RogerH said:

Hi Tom,

 thanks for that.  What make/supplier would there be.

 

Roger

Hi Roger,

Bonding & Reline Services Ltd.

Address: Unit 4 Earls Way, Thurmaston, Leicester LE4 8DL

Hours: 

Open ⋅ Closes 5:30 pm

Phone: 0116 260 1717