Jase Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 My car is a 65 plate and I believe I have a support strut missing from the bonnet, would anyone be able to post an image of the inside of their bonnet please? Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 One here off the web, Stuart Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jase Posted March 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 Thanks Stuart, that looks similar to mine but someone mentioned that I should have two?? I did check but there seemed to be different structures on google images Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Jase said: Thanks Stuart, that looks similar to mine but someone mentioned that I should have two?? I did check but there seemed to be different structures on google images If you meant the front to back struts then there is only one on all TR4/4a/5 bonnets its only when they went to the TR6 bonnet that they fitted two. Stuart. Edited March 10, 2021 by stuart Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jase Posted March 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 (edited) The above pic makes it clear, I think the chap who told me that my bonnet was missing one was thinking of a TR6. Thanks Edited March 10, 2021 by Jase Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bfg Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 My 4A's has a single support strut, but it fouls and rattles on the radiator, which I presume is mounted too far back. Another little job to be done, sometime soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rcreweread Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 Pete - if you look at the first bonnet picture Stuart posted, you can see the "cups" in each corner which locate with the bonnet cones which are missing on your bonnet - looks like they may be a separate pressing spot welded to the strengthening plate underneath so you may be able to source some. They are also on the TR6 bonnet so probably the same Cheers Rich Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, rcreweread said: Pete - if you look at the first bonnet picture Stuart posted, you can see the "cups" in each corner which locate with the bonnet cones which are missing on your bonnet - looks like they may be a separate pressing spot welded to the strengthening plate underneath so you may be able to source some. They are also on the TR6 bonnet so probably the same Cheers Rich If its missing those sections then its an earlier TR4 bonnet as they had different rear bump fittings with flat tops. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, Bfg said: My 4A's has a single support strut, but it fouls and rattles on the radiator, which I presume is mounted too far back. Another little job to be done, sometime soon. It maybe the rad is mounted too high, check the thickness of the mounting rubbers. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bfg Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 Yes indeed, thanks Rich I had all but set those aside in my mind ..and I dare not make a list of the jobs to do ! I'll see if the merchants sell just those reinforcement and location cups. If so I can glue them on. Stuart, great thanks, my car is fitted with pointed conical buffers on which the bonnet wobbles around all over the place. And that in turn aggravates the bonnet to radiator touching. My bonnet is single skin in those corners, whereas I would have thought they should at least have had flat reinforcement plates.? The underside area of those corners shows pitting from corrosion so I'm guessing the plates were removed during restoration to clean that up, but then never refitted. Bob had bought the car as an unfinished restoration, so he might not have taken them off. I would guess they're spot welded or tacked on, so perhaps he only realised they were missing after the bonnet was in paint. Pete. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Bfg said: Yes indeed, thanks Rich I had all but set those aside in my mind ..and I dare not make a list of the jobs to do ! I'll see if the merchants sell just those reinforcement and location cups. If so I can glue them on. Stuart, great thanks, my car is fitted with pointed conical buffers on which the bonnet wobbles around all over the place. And that in turn aggravates the bonnet to radiator touching. My bonnet is single skin in those corners, whereas I would have thought they should at least have had flat reinforcement plates.? The underside area of those corners shows pitting from corrosion so I'm guessing the plates were removed during restoration to clean that up, but then never refitted. Bob had bought the car as an unfinished restoration, so he might not have taken them off. I would guess they're spot welded or tacked on, so perhaps he only realised they were missing after the bonnet was in paint. Pete. No early TR4 long bulge bonnet looked like this no reinforcing more than the inner frame, the rear bonnet cones are flat topped to just hold the bonnet up and were then superseded on 4a with pointed cones. Items 36 and then 37 here Bonnet cones Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bfg Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 Great Thanks Stuart I understand what you're saying, Katie's bonnet ought to have the cups for the cones to locate into. I haven't yet looked to see if anyone offers those (pressed steel cups) as repair items or whether I'll need to find a damaged bonnet which I steal them off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 56 minutes ago, Bfg said: Great Thanks Stuart I understand what you're saying, Katie's bonnet ought to have the cups for the cones to locate into. I haven't yet looked to see if anyone offers those (pressed steel cups) as repair items or whether I'll need to find a damaged bonnet which I steal them off. You could just fit the earlier flat topped buffers and align them properly and then youll have the same as early TR4 owners live with. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 2 hours ago, stuart said: One here off the web, Stuart Stuart, This bonnet has the strut support at an angle from the "eyebrow" in the bonnet to the cut out in the bonnet centre, isn't that indicative of a TR5 bonnet ? Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, Motorsport Mickey said: Stuart, This bonnet has the strut support at an angle from the "eyebrow" in the bonnet to the cut out in the bonnet centre, isn't that indicative of a TR5 bonnet ? Mick Richards Yes it is, I was just trying to illustrate the single front to rear strut as used on all 4/4a/5 bonnets as OP seemed to think there should be two. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bfg Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 55 minutes ago, stuart said: You could just fit the earlier flat topped buffers and align them properly and then youll have the same as early TR4 owners live with. Stuart. Seems the best option and then to adjust the side buffers to minimise wobbling sideways. Thanks Stuart. Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jase Posted March 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 Thanks BFG, mine looks like this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tr4aJim Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 I’m replacing the bonnet on my TR4A, and several people suggested adding stiffing plates to the rear corners. Apparently constant lifting of the bonnet by the rear edge will twist the metal. Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tr4aJim said: I’m replacing the bonnet on my TR4A, and several people suggested adding stiffing plates to the rear corners. Apparently constant lifting of the bonnet by the rear edge will twist the metal. Jim Not so much lifting more slamming it, I fit them whenever restoring one. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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