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It's noticeable that these football/rugby/Athletics etc hero's of yesterday don't often make "old bones".

1966 Team

Bobby Charlton

George Cohen

Geoff Hurst

Roger Hunt

Bobby Moore........... 51

Alan Ball ..................61

Martin Peters.......... 76

Nobby Stiles.............78

Alf Ramsay ..............79

Gordon Banks...........81

Ray Wilson ...............81

Jack Charlton ...........85

 

Mick Richards

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7 minutes ago, Motorsport Mickey said:

It's noticeable that these football/rugby/Athletics etc hero's of yesterday don't often make "old bones".

Mick Richards

He outlived his front teeth by a long way.

He was a nice chap.  In the 70's he was the manager of Preston North End.  He wasn't very good at all but the fans took to him.

 

Roger

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29 minutes ago, RogerH said:

He outlived his front teeth by a long way.

He was a nice chap.  In the 70's he was the manager of Preston North End.  He wasn't very good at all but the fans took to him.

 

Roger

Preston North End...he had a sense of humour didn't he ? 

Mick Richards

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Hi Mick,

 you would think so. But then PNE are very charitable in giving him a job.  He did no worse than Bobby Charlton who was also a PNE manager

Just to cheer you up Nobby was at PNE for 4 years and Bobby was there 2 years.

Nobby managed twice as many games as Bobby but they both ended up with a win % of 32 - this is not Premier league stuff.

Roger

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Perhaps the South, West and East end could join in and increase the funding available ?:blink:

Mick Richards 

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6 minutes ago, RogerH said:

Thankfully, PNE do not need funding. The owner is none other than TRevor Hemmings.

 

Roger

Brighton have funding by way of Tony Bloom, but it doesn’t always translate into results as Brighton’s current form and last result against West Bromwich Albion testify.

They seem to have very deep pockets funding clubs with no fans present. If The Amex is 33,000 capacity, that’s a loss each home game of around £2million plus loss of hospitality. The mind boggles.

Kevin

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Following on from Nobbys death, today it is confirmed that Bobby Charlton has been diagnosed with Alzheimer's. Over the last dozen or so years there have been many footballers from our youth who have succumbed to this condition, an excerpt from the Telegraph report this afternoon about it.

 

...For all of us, the clock ticks on. And yet it is becoming difficult not to conclude that for the class of 1966, time has been an especially harsh mistress. Of the starting XI chosen by Alf Ramsey for the final 54 years ago, Sir Bobby is the fifth member to fall prey to Alzheimer’s or dementia in later life. First came Ray Wilson and Martin Peters, then the once-indomitable “Big Jack”, and, just last week, Nobby Stiles. For just one member of that most celebrated side to be robbed of his mental acuity is desperate, but five? With all those men the products of an era when heavier balls were headed, it is the sharpest prompt for the authorities to ratchet up their investigations into the links between football and neurological illness.

That Sir Bobby’s dementia has come to light within hours of Stiles’ passing with the same condition is a source of particular pathos. For United and England, the pair were the closest friends, with Charlton’s straight-man persona the perfect complement to Stiles’ madcap excesses. On tour, their antics could be pure Laurel and Hardy. On one occasion of sharing a hotel room, Stiles, his reputation for clumsiness well-established, managed to destroy a radio, rip the curtains off the wall and write-off a bathroom shelf, all in the space of five minutes. Another time, in Florence, Charlton saw him walk into a china shop, only to hear the sound of a violent crash before Stiles ran out straight past him.

Gary Neville has identified Charlton as Manchester United’s beacon - he has a stand named after him at Old Trafford CREDIT: GETTY IMAGES

These were recollections fit to last a lifetime. How sad that, decades later when Sir Bobby paid a visit to his old friend at home, he caught him on “one of his bad days”, as Stiles’ son Rob put it. Little could he have foreseen that after another few years, he, too, would join the millions of dementia sufferers. For some time, Sir Bobby’s health has been known to be increasingly fragile, reflected in his gradual retreat from public life. And for all the tensions he endured with his brother, his non-attendance at Jack’s funeral this summer was an alarm, suggesting his struggles were more serious than reported.

Dementia gives rise to such dread because it is arbitrary, inexorable, and all too commonplace. But the erasure of memory can never compromise the value of the life that has been lived. In Sir Bobby’s case, it is a life that has encompassed every extreme, from growing up permanently hungry during postwar rationing to conquering every land that football has to offer. Gary Neville has identified him as United’s beacon, the vital stitch in the club fabric, the embodiment of its every principle and value. His wife Norma, Lady Charlton, whom he first met at a Manchester ice rink in 1959, will see to it that his remaining years are enjoyed in comfort. For ultimately, he symbolises a gravitas and a decency that no disease can erode. 

I hope for the best result for Sir Bobby and his family, they suffer from a condition many other families are plagued with.

Mick Richards

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People have been investigating the link between heading the ball (and back in the pre-70's those balls, especially when wet, weighed a ton) and Dementia.  

Interestingly Bobby C didn't head the ball that much. He was very much a one footed goal scorer.

Somebody asked him once why he never used his left foot to shoot. Very simply he replied 'I stand on my left foot'

 

Roger

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