JJC Posted March 14, 2019 Report Share Posted March 14, 2019 yet another flasher unit has failed on the 2. Anyone know of a source of reliable units? I’m not planning to change polarity from standard. That makes it difficult to go for a modern electronic device. JJC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted March 14, 2019 Report Share Posted March 14, 2019 https://www.classiccarleds.co.uk/collections/indicator-relays-electronic/products/12v-electronic-indicator-flasher-relay-classic-car-with-oe-click-x-l-p-2-3-pin?variant=8299346853983 These are available in +ve or -ve earth. Intended for use with LED bulbs, but work perfectly well with ordinary bulbs. Bob. P.S. If you ever consider upgrading to LED rear bulbs I can help you out ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted March 14, 2019 Report Share Posted March 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, Lebro said: https://www.classiccarleds.co.uk/collections/indicator-relays-electronic/products/12v-electronic-indicator-flasher-relay-classic-car-with-oe-click-x-l-p-2-3-pin?variant=8299346853983 These are available in +ve or -ve earth. Intended for use with LED bulbs, but work perfectly well with ordinary bulbs. Bob. Bob would this relay speed up the flash rate in a 3a with traditional bulbs ? H Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JJC Posted March 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2019 Thanks Bob & Bob. Will order one. JJC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted March 14, 2019 Report Share Posted March 14, 2019 Hi Hamish. Depends on what flash rate you currently have ! The flash rate with these is independent of what type of bulb you use, & is the "correct" rate. Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ianc Posted March 14, 2019 Report Share Posted March 14, 2019 With the old tin can, containing a bi-metallic strip, one is aware immediately if one of the trafficator bulbs has blown (or has become disconnected) because the flash rate increases. With an electronic device such as this, I think that one would be unaware of such a condition as the flash rate would be unaffected - or am I wrong? That said, reliability and life of the reproduction tin can flasher units does appear to be an ongoing issue, so I can well understand folks wanting something more reliable, even if one ought to check the trafficators before setting off. In a garage, with door shut, it's easy to check all four flashers from the driver's seat as the flashing is visible on the door and the wall. Ian Cornish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted March 14, 2019 Report Share Posted March 14, 2019 You are not wrong Ian, & that is exactly the reason that ordinary flasher units cannot be used with LED bulbs. However the expected lifetime of an LED bulb is so much greater than filament types that bulb failure is rare. As you say regular checking is a good idea. Bob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JJC Posted March 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Many thanks for the link. Flasher unit arrived by return of post and works fine. In modern traffic having reliable indicators seems like a good idea. JJC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 On 3/14/2019 at 5:19 PM, Lebro said: Hi Hamish. Depends on what flash rate you currently have ! The flash rate with these is independent of what type of bulb you use, & is the "correct" rate. Bob Hi bob thanks for the advice. I too bought one of these flasher units ( neg earth type) https://www.classiccarleds.co.uk/collections/indicator-relays-electronic/products/12v-electronic-indicator-flasher-relay-classic-car-with-oe-click-x-l-p-2-3-pin?variant=13046057991 to my mind it had increased the flash rate on my ordinary bulbs to something that is more noticeable to that which I had previously. I think I am now future proof should I wish to go led “bulbs” thanks for the help and advice you give the forum. H this is a before and after video. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MilesA Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Hamish Now all you need to do is fit a pair of those clever LED's at the front which are white when the sidelights are on but turn to orange when indicating. You keep the original clear lamp glass, but orange indicators are more familiar to modern motorists... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) The flasher units come with a rubber strap, which has a slot init so it can be pushed onto a suitable tab on the car, however, for the TR's I take a 90° steel bracket, (of the sort you would buy from a hardware store to hold kitchen cupboards together etc) cut both sides down in length, & then once inserted into the rubber strap the other side can be fitted to the same captive nut as the original flasher unit. (or lower down in my case !) Let me know if you are thinking about going LED, I can point you in the right direction ! Bob. Edited March 19, 2019 by Lebro Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Bob, I simplified my flasher unit fitting by using the TR4/4A method of a three Lucar receptacle screwed to the bulkhead - the flasher unit then simply plugs in. When wired correctly it is right first time if changing flasher units. My receptacle is from an old TR4, is Bakelite and looks quite period . This is the sort of thing available today that I guess would do the job. https://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product/46/category/7 The receptacle commonly available today is the plastic one used to plug the head lamp wiring to the lamp unit/bulb that has 3 Lucar blade connections. Be sure to mount it on a fibre pad so it cannot possibly short out on the bulkhead. Cheers Peter W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 2 hours ago, MilesA said: Hamish Now all you need to do is fit a pair of those clever LED's at the front which are white when the sidelights are on but turn to orange when indicating. You keep the original clear lamp glass, but orange indicators are more familiar to modern motorists... Plus, you could do as I have done....Also fit the Amber/White LED bulbs at the back with clear lenses and you will have built in reversing lamps with the stunningly bright amber flashers. You do need to buy the twin filament body (same as front of TR2/3A) for the rear and add reverse lamp wiring. Lamp assy is pt no 1B9100 https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/front-side-flasher-lamps-tr2-3a.html If you have spare clear lenses already you can buy just the inner body of the lamp for half the price of the complete lamp Part No 27H5545 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lucas-Repro-L594-Brake-Tail-Dual-Pole-Bulb-Fitting-Holder-Land-Rover-Series-2a-3/271957717792?hash=item3f51f17320:g:PckAAOSwT6pVzk-c&frcectupt=true Cheers Peter W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Ooooohhhhh there are some clever /ingenious folks out there. thanks for sharing. I reached my electrical technical limit changing the flasher unit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, BlueTR3A-5EKT said: Plus, you could do as I have done....Also fit the Amber/White LED bulbs at the back with clear lenses and you will have built in reversing lamps with the stunningly bright amber flashers. You do need to buy the twin filament body (same as front of TR2/3A) for the rear and add reverse lamp wiring. Lamp assy is pt no 1B9100 https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/front-side-flasher-lamps-tr2-3a.html If you have spare clear lenses already you can buy just the inner body of the lamp for half the price of the complete lamp Part No 27H5545 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lucas-Repro-L594-Brake-Tail-Dual-Pole-Bulb-Fitting-Holder-Land-Rover-Series-2a-3/271957717792?hash=item3f51f17320:g:PckAAOSwT6pVzk-c&frcectupt=true Cheers Peter W Peter. The lamp unit you describe is only used on later TR3's & 3A's TR2s & early 3s used this one 3H3055 which recesses the bulb further into the holder, & uses a flat lens. But I guess you knew that really Bob P.S. I'm surprised you need reversing lights with my rear LEDs !! Edited March 19, 2019 by Lebro Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) oops. As it is a suggestion for the rear flasher lamp to be modified to accept a twin filament bulb, I had always thought the rear flasher was to be of the later proud fitting bulb type. This is not and excuse..... I agree the front lamp TR2/3 is the recessed type. According to the parts book the separate rear indicator lamps change at TS15601 (!) The later, post TS15601, type being, I guess, with the proud bulb. Oddly the rear panel change, that I thought wase when separate rear indicators arrived, is a TS16473 - so what is that all about? Has anyone in USA, Holland, or Belgium got one of these pre TS15600 export cars with separate rear flashers? Or am I off at a tangent here? Cheers Peter W PS Yes I know the parts books are not always correct. Edited April 18, 2019 by BlueTR3A-5EKT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 A new member joined us at last months Thames Valley meet, he had just purchased a TR3, but it had the rear end with separate indicators. it looked like a genuine one to me, but of course it could have been fitted later following a crash or refurb. Don't remember the commision No. but the owner thought it was a very late '3. Bob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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