ptr2 Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Hi Guys, I need to know the pipe clamp and rubber holder part no. That hangs off the thermostat housing to support the petrol Pipe, if anyone can help that would be great, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Hi, I've looked through the Moss WebCat and can't see it. However I made my own. The clip is a simple bent piece of Stainless. The attachment hole is a slot that slides onto the thermo housing lower bolt.. The rubber pipe cover is a piece of rubber fuel pipe. You may need to be inventive to hold the dizzy Vacuum pipe. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobH Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Moss list it as 133072 with rubber 133083 but that is for Tr4/4A. Not listed for TR2-3A Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ptr2 Posted February 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Yes, I could not find it either, I am sure I have seen it listed somewhere, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobH Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 See above Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ptr2 Posted February 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Cheers Rob H, That's the one, I just feel it will look better on the car. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ptr2 Posted February 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Cheers Rob H, That's the one, I just feel it will look better on the car. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) Hi Rob, that was a good bit of detective work. However at that price, and with a hole rather than a slot, I shall go into business and start making them. Roger Fiddlesticks - I looked at that page and couldn't see it for looking https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/triumph/tr2-4a/fuel-system-induction-controls/tanks-pumps-pipes/fuel-tank-pipe-pump-tr4-4a.html #57 & #56 Edited February 10, 2018 by RogerH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don H. Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) Here's a photo of my original. Seems to look nothing like your parts #56 and #57, Roger. This would be a trivial item to fabricate. Edited February 10, 2018 by Don H. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don H. Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Moss USA shows the TR4-4A parts for TR2-3B fitment on their site. Parts #45 and #46 below. https://mossmotors.com/triumph-tr2-3-4/fuel-intake-emissions/fuel-system-tr2-3b Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR 2100 Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 The clip shown by Don H in the photos above match the only clips I have ever seen on my 3As and 1962 4s. I don't have experience of later 4s or 4As. AlanR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ptr2 Posted February 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 So Don H, on your original fitting, did the copper pipe finish At the fitting, and a flexible then run to the carbs, with the flexible lock nutted to your fitting, I think that sounds right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don H. Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 So Don H, on your original fitting, did the copper pipe finish At the fitting, and a flexible then run to the carbs, with the flexible lock nutted to your fitting, I think that sounds right. No, that doesn't sound right at all, ptr2. 1. The hard fuel lines are steel, not copper. 2. The hard line ran well through the fitting (with a rubber grommet installed in the fitting's hole and terminated closer to the carbs with a flexible line. In the originals, the rubber line was simply slipped onto the hard line. Nowadays most sensible people use one type or another hose clamp. 3. I have no idea what you mean by "flexible lock nutted to your fitting". See this image before restoration of my car. Note: This was after twenty years of storage in a barn -- and I'm the one who put it there, alas! Click on the photo for full size enlargement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ptr2 Posted February 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Got it Don, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John McCormack Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 No, that doesn't sound right at all, ptr2. 1. The hard fuel lines are steel, not copper. 2. The hard line ran well through the fitting (with a rubber grommet installed in the fitting's hole and terminated closer to the carbs with a flexible line. In the originals, the rubber line was simply slipped onto the hard line. Nowadays most sensible people use one type or another hose clamp. 3. I have no idea what you mean by "flexible lock nutted to your fitting". See this image before restoration of my car. Note: This was after twenty years of storage in a barn -- and I'm the one who put it there, alas! Click on the photo for full size enlargement. Not wanting to be picky but are you sure that is original? IBy coincidence I have been looking at that clamp on my restoration car just this morning. The hose clamps in the photo aren't original, it is possible that the pipe support is also non original. I have had my short door TR2 since early 76. I have seen quite a few sidescreens and that part isn't something I've seen often, although I do recall seeing the same or similar which I assumed to be home made. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR 2100 Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Not wanting to be picky but are you sure that is original? IBy coincidence I have been looking at that clamp on my restoration car just this morning. The hose clamps in the photo aren't original, it is possible that the pipe support is also non original. I have had my short door TR2 since early 76. I have seen quite a few sidescreens and that part isn't something I've seen often, although I do recall seeing the same or similar which I assumed to be home made. The hose clamps are not original. The hoses themselves I believe to be not original the two metal wrap-around pipe clips are not original. All things than can easily be changed. The pipe support for the fuel line IS original. AlanR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 The pipe support clip is often missing from early cars as they date from the days when proper enthusiasts ran two different thermostats one for winter and one for summer along with two different grades of oil winter/summer so the housings were undone lots of times and the clip would often be found somewhere down near the fuel pump or missing altogether. I had a one owner Derrington built 3a and the clip was just rattling around on the fuel pipe. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don H. Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) The hose clamps are not original. The hoses themselves I believe to be not original the two metal wrap-around pipe clips are not original. All things than can easily be changed. The pipe support for the fuel line IS original. AlanR Exactly right, Alan. Interesting, some owner back in the 60s or 70s (I bought the car in 1981) used an extra Jubilee-style hose clamp on the bypass hose, apparently as a restrictor when a non-sleeved thermostat was added. An awkward approach, although it might very well have helped. Here's another view of that fuel line fitting showing the bypass hose clamp, too. Edited February 11, 2018 by Don H. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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