Best workshop manual for reference.

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Thought I'd ask before I splash the cash.

 

Anyone have a online source for the Manufactures Workshop Manual.

 

Thanks

 

Andy

[Alec Pringle]

Download free from Vitesse Steve ?

 

Cheers,

 

Alec

[Guest ntc]

Or

Support the club,brown bible at the shop.

[john.r.davies]

You don't say what car!

 

Haynes are based on a real strip down, with photographs taken to illustrate, and with the DiY maintainer in mind, and suggestions of how to do so with a set of ordinary tools.

'Official' workshop manuals are illustrated with professional technical artists' drawings, wonderfully clear, and are intended for the dealer's workshop, with a full range of tools, inc.'special tools' to hand.

 

That's your choice.

John

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Or

Support the club,brown bible at the shop.

Stupid question where is the "shop"? Can't see it on here.

 

Thanks

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You don't say what car!

 

Haynes are based on a real strip down, with photographs taken to illustrate, and with the DiY maintainer in mind, and suggestions of how to do so with a set of ordinary tools.

'Official' workshop manuals are illustrated with professional technical artists' drawings, wonderfully clear, and are intended for the dealer's workshop, with a full range of tools, inc.'special tools' to hand.

 

That's your choice.

John

TR6

 

Thanks

[vitessesteve]

There is a link to the shop on the website: http://www.tr-registershop.co.uk/

 

Or get a pdf from my website: http://vitessesteve.co.uk/Servicemanuals

 

I recommend getting both. A real paper copy can be read anywhere. + you can print off pages from the PDF to use use in the garage.

[Mike C]

There is a link to the shop on the website: http://www.tr-registershop.co.uk/

 

Or get a pdf from my website: http://vitessesteve.co.uk/Servicemanuals

 

I recommend getting both. A real paper copy can be read anywhere. + you can print off pages from the PDF to use use in the garage.

I have both but having a stored pdf copy saves walking to the garage when you need information for sorting out problems/ordering parts etc. at your computer.

[Waldi]

 

I use the original wsm (english pdf) and besides that a haynes manual, to double check in case of doubt.

I bought a new repro of the wsm (brown bible) from bol.com but is was a very poor reprint, pictures vage, text like I needed new glasses:(

I shipped it back and was refunded.

Once I run into a decent copy of the original wsm, in english language, I will buy that.

So beware with buying new copys from the www.

 

For those in Holland:

Do not buy the Dutch translation of the work Shop manual, it uses weird language and has conversion errors from english to metric numbers.

 

Regards,

Waldi

[BlueTR3A-5EKT]

TR6

 

Thanks

ahh but which model? PI or Carb year of make?

The 'Brown Bible', reprinted by Robert Bentley or Brooklands books I think, will do the TR6 car sufficiently but the late (post ,'73) wiring diagrams etc are only in the BL publication pt no AKM3646, which is a white soft covered book that covers TR4-TR6. The web will reward you with the wiring diagrams, but be careful as there are a host of USA carb. spec diagrams out there which are quite different to the PI.

 

For spare parts catalogues get a printed copy of the Moss Europe one. while they still print it and give it away! These catalogues also give a wealth of 'how to do it' info and of course a great source of what goes where. So much easier to use and more informative than the web based view.

 

https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/moss-parts-accessories-catalogues.html

 

Peter W

 

PS The AKM 3646 repair Op manual comes up for sale every now and again, I am not aware of it having been reprinted.

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ahh but which model? PI or Carb year of make?

The 'Brown Bible', reprinted by Robert Bentley or Brooklands books I think, will do the TR6 car sufficiently but the late (post ,'73) wiring diagrams etc are only in the BL publication pt no AKM3646, which is a white soft covered book that covers TR4-TR6. The web will reward you with the wiring diagrams, but be careful as there are a host of USA carb. spec diagrams out there which are quite different to the PI.

 

For spare parts catalogues get a printed copy of the Moss Europe one. while they still print it and give it away! These catalogues also give a wealth of 'how to do it' info and of course a great source of what goes where. So much easier to use and more informative than the web based view.

 

https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/moss-parts-accessories-catalogues.html

 

Peter W

 

PS The AKM 3646 repair Op manual comes up for sale every now and again, I am not aware of it having been reprinted.

Yet to buy a car as yet thought I'd get ahead of the game.

 

Wanting and early PI car as I undertand PI better than carbs which should hopefully make tunning and set up easier.

 

Thanks for the help

 

Andy

[john.r.davies]

If you think that, you make the same error as did Triumph! When they introduced Pi, the first use of fuel injection in a production car, in the world, they didn't bother to offer any training for dealer workshop staff.

 

As a result, they tried to adapt carburettor ideas to Pi, screwed it up, and said the Pi was unreliable, useless, etc. That's the reputation it got, although it was much simpler, cheaper Bosch K-jetronic that killed it.

 

Get a copy of the Lucas Training Manual, its online and available as an excellent quality reprint, but most of all, don't fiddle with. Get they system set up on the bench by one of the specialists, and leave it alone!

 

John

[Mike C]

If you think that, you make the same error as did Triumph! When they introduced Pi, the first use of fuel injection in a production car, in the world, they didn't bother to offer any training for dealer workshop staff.

 

As a result, they tried to adapt carburettor ideas to Pi, screwed it up, and said the Pi was unreliable, useless, etc. That's the reputation it got, although it was much simpler, cheaper Bosch K-jetronic that killed it.

 

Get a copy of the Lucas Training Manual, its online and available as an excellent quality reprint, but most of all, don't fiddle with. Get they system set up on the bench by one of the specialists, and leave it alone!

 

John

A TR6 with its PI system properly set up by experts using a test bench a joy to drive. More acceleration than most modern cars in the 50-70 mph range with a crisp howl from the exhaust . A TR6 with it's PI out of adjustment is hard to start, accelerates like a fully loaded brick truck, drinks fuel and fills the cabin with petrol fumes. Use an expert for any major work on the PI system , the Lucas PI training notes are excellent background for small jobs like cleaning injectors and the notes or a proper manual are essential for removing any PI components to send to the experts.

[stallie]

A printed hole punched version of the brown bible is excellent in a folder tabbed for each section. You'll need two folders. Then you don't worry about greasy fingers, it lies flat, and you can write notes etc in the margins and insert other relevant information into each chapter that you fin on the net.

 

A5 has been fine for me for the last ten years, but I have about 3-4 more years until I'll need to change to an A4 reprint....

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A TR6 with its PI system properly set up by experts using a test bench a joy to drive. More acceleration than most modern cars in the 50-70 mph range with a crisp howl from the exhaust . A TR6 with it's PI out of adjustment is hard to start, accelerates like a fully loaded brick truck, drinks fuel and fills the cabin with petrol fumes. Use an expert for any major work on the PI system , the Lucas PI training notes are excellent background for small jobs like cleaning injectors and the notes or a proper manual are essential for removing any PI components to send to the experts.

My father-in-law was a fuel injection engineer all his working life with many years working on both Lucas and Bosch systems from cars to ships engines and left me with all his tools and manuals. He was a mine of information but sadley not with us now but I remember him saying when the PI system appeared he thought it would not catch on due to the complexity it presented at the time to those brought up on carbs which I personally think are harder to set up, tune and maintain than PI.

 

Depending on what state the PI system is in when I find a car may well dictate how I go with it. If its salavagable then I may well keep it OEM. If not then I might go with a modern configurable ecu/injectors disguised to look OEM as I agree that a correctly set up PI system will out preform carbs in all areas and offer peace of mind in the longer term.

 

On this point anyone already using such a set up?

 

Cheers

 

Andy.

[Andrew Smith]

TR6

 

Thanks

 

Probably why it's posted in the TR6 forum...............