GT6M Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 May be of intrest to some, but not to others. this is designed to pre charge the oil system befoer the engine fires, so oil pressure is already up at fire up. quite simple to doo, and quite a cheep item too, even wid bits biggest oot lay was solonoid valve, v v dear of e bay, 6.00£, owa 60£ in local hydro spot for same thing!! reply 112, page 8, if link no teks ye there http://www.triumph.org.uk/cgi-bin/forum10/Blah.pl?m-1430424675/s-105/ M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 Hi Marcus, I can see what you are doing and am impressed but not sure if you will actually achieve a benefit. But good on you for going that extra mile. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GT6M Posted August 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 Rodger, this is what it will doo. https://youtu.be/uhRfUegqwxg any one after seeing this, and think its a waste of time, just meks me wonder whats going on up top,!!! M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Marcus, Was good to chat at IWE. I have a need to hold injection water under pressure, around 10 Bar, and am looking into anti-water hammer devices used by plumbers: http://www.advancedwater.co.uk/prod-140-147-0001.html It uses a gas filled chamber to provide compressibility. You got something similar in your tank? cheers Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peejay4A Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Peter, How about adapting an old French La Trombe toilet flush? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Peter, How about adapting an old French La Trombe toilet flush? Pete, It would complement the window cleaners' pump I've fitted ! But la Trombes on Google are a bit too big and I need 10 bar. Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GT6M Posted August 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 Update for the few intrested, after inital start up to fill tank, switched off, left a day, turned ign on, valve opened. And with in seconds I had 45 PSI on the oil pressure gauge int car, with oot engine running, and was still showning 35 PSI 2+mins later with no engine running. Started engine, and thingy re pressurised for next time. a win win win thingamajig this thing is. M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 Hi Marcus, an interesting refinement. You realise that your engine will now last forever, so no chance of another rebuild. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ianc Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 One could achieve a similar result by inserting a switch in the LT connection to the coil, churning the engine on the starter until pressure shows on the gauge, then re-connecting the coil to start the engine. I use a similar regime when I have changed the oil, but I remove the plugs as well because the oil filter has to be filled before oil can reach the galleries feeding the bearings at crank and camshaft level and to the head. Ian Cornish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 Hi Ian, not quite. With the above method oil would be in place and pressurised. The bearings would have only to move a fraction of an inch to get fully lubricated. With your method - age old, well used - there may only be a very thin film in place. Although adequate it must take some punishment given time. I still think it is a clever idea. It is the oily version of electronic ignition - not absolutely necessary but an improvement on the norm. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GT6M Posted August 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 Yes, and can go back to a single drain filter , when my stock of v expensive Mann double anti drain ones run oot M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rodbr Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Hi Ian, Met up with Markus at the show yesterday and we went through the system and there is a real satisfaction in seeing the oil pressure raising to push oil throughout the oil galleries without a single moving part. Particularly like this system, simple effective and no downside!!!! Hot or cold full oil pressure throughout the engine before starting to me is a no brainer and I do not normally contemplate diversion from standard or the "old school" methods lightly. Nice one Markus. Hats off to Markus, well engineered system neat and unobtrusive. Also all round nice guy with "smarts" to waste. I look forward to working with him on a four port unit with some more tweaks. I might even post results or perhaps not given the flack I get on this forum. Rgds Rod Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Hi Rod, S*d the flack - get building and report back. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Marcus, Was good to chat at IWE. I have a need to hold injection water under pressure, around 10 Bar, and am looking into anti-water hammer devices used by plumbers: http://www.advancedwater.co.uk/prod-140-147-0001.html It uses a gas filled chamber to provide compressibility. You got something similar in your tank? cheers Peter Forget the 10 bar - go for a Citroen Sphere and shove 100 bar down the manifold.... http://www.mycitroen.dk/library/ds/Red/Hydraulics/Chas'%20Hydraulic%20Course.pdf Is this to be an advance/derivative on water methanol injection? The RR Dart had water methanol injected at the inlet face of the compressor. Sorry to say I have misplaced all my old Dart training notes so can not enlighten you with performance figures etc. Cheers Peter W Edited October 21, 2015 by BlueTR3A-5EKT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Hi Pete, not just the old Dart but the RR Spey (much more modern) had water meth injection also. Not on the BA fleet but I think NorthWest had them Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Hi Pete, not just the old Dart but the RR Spey (much more modern) had water meth injection also. Not on the BA fleet but I think NorthWest had them Roger Do not recall the WM on Spey fitted to Laker nor BCal BAC1-11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) HI Pete, it was only on the NorthEast TRidents 1E (I think) but not water Meth - just water injection Roger Edited October 21, 2015 by RogerH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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