AlanT Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 This is a very nice aluminium loaded filler. Recommended on here by Stuart. Very similar to the Dinitrol I've used before. BUT Are all the pro-shops refrigerated, because these fillers both set really quickly? Now I am putting in the minimum of pink-hardener I can. Just a spot 3/8in long. I'm not a pro, but I am used to using such stuff. I can mix it, apply it and clean up without getting in a sticky mess. But I have to work like greased-lightening, even if I don't mix up more than a few spoons-full. So why are they making it like this? If you buy stuff in DIY shops it sets in a much ore leisurely fashion. If it set more slowly then I could mix more and use less layers. Perhaps that's the point, they want you to use several thin layers. It does take me a bit longer to do it that way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don H. Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Many of the pro-grade products are really "hot", because it lets downstream work begin as soon as possible. Don't skimp on hardener too much or the final composite will be compromised by incomplete cure. Working with small volumes is what I do. With practice one gets better, but ya gotta hustle for sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Straighten it out first then you wont need so much filler :lol: Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 And put bacofoil on your pallet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlanT Posted August 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Like this I suppose: https://flic.kr/p/fvVU9X https://flic.kr/p/fvVU4Z https://flic.kr/p/fwbb3S Does the Baco-foil make it set more slowly? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Does the Baco-foil make it set more slowly? It aint rocket science work it out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlanT Posted August 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) No it's definitely is not rocket science, because I have a degree in that and gave lectures in it for 8-years. I think its probably polymer chemistry. I guess I'll try an experiment. If this proves to work then I thank you for the tip. Edited August 26, 2014 by AlanT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
littlejim Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 No it's definitely is not rocket science, because I have a degree in that and gave lectures in it for 8-years. Sorry Alan, You made me burst out larfing. Good one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlanT Posted August 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 My problem is I have no sense of humour and just take everything literally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
D Murton Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 It aint rocket science work it out Exothermic reaction - the foil helps dissipate the heat slowing the reaction????? Dave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlanT Posted August 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Oh! Use of foil to loose heat by radiation WOULD be rocket science. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny250 Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 THIS is rocket science........ Our feeble attempt here....... john Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 All wrong next Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Royal Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) If you put foil on your pallet, it means you can throw away the foil once you have finished, and your pallet is still nice and clean. Simple really. Cheers Guy What do I win then.?? Edited August 28, 2014 by Jersey Royal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foster461 Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 http://www.eastwood.com/quick-mix-board.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny250 Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Straighten it out first then you wont need so much filler :lol: Stuart. I thought you only used lead, Stuart........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 If you put foil on your pallet, it means you can throw away the foil once you have finished, and your pallet is still nice and clean. Simple really. Cheers Guy What do I win then.?? Close Guy but no cigar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Royal Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 What No cigar. Ok I have thought about it a little more. Apart from saving your pallet, the foil provides a firm base that does not move, but also will not absorb the resin. :) This therefore allows you to mix the filler to 100 per cent, no resin losses through absorption, Ok so now do I get a big fat Cigar Neil Cheers Guy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlanT Posted August 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 I studied this problem a bit via the net. One thing that has helped me is to mix the hardener. I don't mean mix it with anything. I mean mix it up. This stuff comes on a small foil bag witha scew cap. You can "massage' this about and mix it without letting it out. I have a new can of filler and the most active part of the hardener may have made its way to the nozzle. Having worked it about a while the setting time is now more acceptable. I'm even using a little more hardener. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 What No cigar. Ok I have thought about it a little more. Apart from saving your pallet, the foil provides a firm base that does not move, but also will not absorb the resin. :) This therefore allows you to mix the filler to 100 per cent, no resin losses through absorption, Ok so now do I get a big fat Cigar Neil Cheers Guy Yep Well done that man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Royal Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Yahooooo Cheers Guy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 A 1ft square piece of 18SWG sheet steel works fine as a mixing palate, The bit I use has lasted over 30 years just clean it off with thinners. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) A 1ft square piece of 18SWG sheet steel works fine as a mixing palate, The bit I use has lasted over 30 years just clean it off with thinners. Stuart. Hope you primed it first ? Edited August 31, 2014 by ntc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Hope you primed it first ? Nope clean bare bright steel. Never had any problems with it. Any primer or any other finish would contaminate. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlanT Posted August 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 I'm glad you posted that. I use a piece of 3/8in plate glass I got from my Dad. I just wipe it with thinners. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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