Jack - Hammer - Badge

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Here are some seldom seen items, including the long TR-2 jack, the original body-colored (Olive Yellow!) knock off hammer, and a nice badge for when I get a badge bar! The hammer especially seems rare, even though it is fairly well-used, to say the least. Has anyone seen a body colored knock-off hammer before?

 

Aloha

 

Dan

 

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Can any owners of early wire wheel cars confirm that the knock-off hammer was body colored?

 

Thanks

 

Dan

[Alec Pringle]

Hi Dan,

 

I've seen body coloured hammers, black hammers and unpainted hammers in the past . . . . and always assumed that the painted ones were so finished by some enthusiastic owner in days of yore. I find it hard to imagine S-T going to the trouble of painting any tools in matching colours, although it seems more plausible to imagine a dealer smartening up the tool kit on a display car, perhaps ? I've also seen hammers of slightly different shapes and sizes, all purporting to be original. The tool kit content does seem to have varied through the years, hardly surprising, but I can't recall having seen the 'knock off' hammer listed in the sidescreen parts books.

 

Cheers,

 

Alec

[Don Elliott]

The hammer handle looks more like an axe handle from an axe that happened to have been painted at some time in its lifetime.

 

A bit like the "original" one from Caernafon Castle where the King's axe had been restored several times. The story goes that the axe head had been replaced several times and the handle likewise, but it was still "original" because one or the other part was still there from the previous restoration.

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Thanks Don for the hilarious perspective on the funky hammer! It turned up with the parts for the car when my Dad and I got it in 1979, and my only reason for excitement at the prospect of it being original was the olive yellow paint, combined with the fact that there should be a knock-off supplied with the original wire wheel option on the car. The color is a pretty good match of my known olive yellow samples, so I thought that it was less likely to be a miscellaneous hammer or modification. But it may just as likely belong with some other medieval implements of war.

 

Dan

[vivdownunder]

Dan, a copper hammer and spoke spanner came as part of the factory wire wheel option, through to the end of TR4A production.

 

Early TR copper hammers I've seen had an oval section timber handle that allowed either side of the head to be used. The finish was clear lacquer.

 

Your Olive Yellow painted handle looks to be shaped for one sided operation, such as from a hatchet or tomahawk. I doubt very much it's original.

 

If changing a wheel at night it wasn't unheard of to forget to pick up the copper hammer. They were usually replaced with whatever was available.

 

Regards,

 

Viv.

[johnny250]

Saw the title of this post and thought it must be another Lindisfarne fan........

 

http://web2txt.co.uk/lindisfarne-jackhammer-blues-live-mp3-download-11524-204589/

 

it's not obviously!

john

[Dave Larnder]

Dan, a copper hammer and spoke spanner came as part of the factory wire wheel option, through to the end of TR4A production.

 

Early TR copper hammers I've seen had an oval section timber handle that allowed either side of the head to be used. The finish was clear lacquer.

 

Your Olive Yellow painted handle looks to be shaped for one sided operation, such as from a hatchet or tomahawk. I doubt very much it's original.

 

If changing a wheel at night it wasn't unheard of to forget to pick up the copper hammer. They were usually replaced with whatever was available.

 

Regards,

 

Viv.

 

Hi Viv

"Spoke spanner" is that the tool for adjusting the spoke tension, or do you mean an octagonal spanner for the "Earless" knock-on nuts?

If the former, do you have a photo of one for interest?

Thanks

Dave

[vivdownunder]

Dave, I don't have a spoke spanner these days, but it is a long thin item for tightening loose spoke nuts at the rim end.

 

I discovered years ago that home tinkering with the spokes usually meant a trip to the wire wheel repairer to get the job done properly.

 

The spoke spanner is/was Moss UK part MM385-800. Moss Motors US may have a pic under part 385-800.

 

The short spanner (used with a hammer) for TR5 onward octagonal wheel nuts is Moss UK part AHH5839. Moss Motors USA part 386-030.

 

Regards,

 

Viv.

[Dave Larnder]

Dave, I don't have a spoke spanner these days, but it is a long thin item for tightening loose spoke nuts at the rim end.

 

I discovered years ago that home tinkering with the spokes usually meant a trip to the wire wheel repairer to get the job done properly.

 

The spoke spanner is/was Moss UK part MM385-800. Moss Motors US may have a pic under part 385-800.

 

The short spanner (used with a hammer) for TR5 onward octagonal wheel nuts is Moss UK part AHH5839. Moss Motors USA part 386-030.

 

Regards,

 

Viv.

 

Hi Viv

 

I know the item, and like you, would not want to do it myself even on newish wheels let alone older ones. I tried it years ago on an Austin Healey 100/6 I had in S. Africa when I broke 3 consecutive spokes in a 48 spoked wheel, it had to go to a specialist, and due to the age of the wheel it was easier for them to replace all the spokes for not much more than just the three.

Dave