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Hi, guys,

 

My temp and fuel gauges are wandering up and down randomly, so the voltage stabiliser is suspect. I believe it is on the back of the speedo but I am unsure of the easiest route to get at it. The Haynes manual is quite vague about this and just gives the procedure for removing the entire dash. I don't want to dismantle the dash only to find that there is a much easier route straight to it.

 

Any suggestions for a short cut?

 

Ta,

 

Steve

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Hi, guys,

 

My temp and fuel gauges are wandering up and down randomly, so the voltage stabiliser is suspect. I believe it is on the back of the speedo but I am unsure of the easiest route to get at it. The Haynes manual is quite vague about this and just gives the procedure for removing the entire dash. I don't want to dismantle the dash only to find that there is a much easier route straight to it.

 

Any suggestions for a short cut?

 

Ta,

 

Steve

 

 

Steve,

 

You will have to remove the speedo.

Disconnect the drive cable in the centre , big black cable, pull out the bulbs. The speedo stays in the dash by two or maybe three brackets on the

rear, they will have knurled nuts on them.

 

Once you have undone them the gauge will come out, sometimes it may also be stuck to the dash itself with a black gunky

mastic, with a bit of wiggling it will come away.

 

Good Luck

Guy

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It would be a good Idea to disconnect the battery first before delving around under the dash.

Stuart.

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I replaced mine a few weeks ago. Rather than replace it with the old electro mechanical thing, I used one of the new solid state electronic ones. It's a bit fiddly to get to, but not too difficult. Definately disconnect the battery first and then as others have said, remove the drive cable and the trip odometer reset from the dashboard (not from the speedo head as it will break, apparantly), fiddle about to find the clamps held on with knurled nuts and then the speedo will come loose. The lamps for the oil (or is is ign) and turn indicators will fall out and I think I needed to fiddle about with indicator and overdrive switches to remove the speedo, but there's just about emough room without removing the steering wheel.

 

When I put mine back together, I muddled up the lights, so it took several attempts to get it all working again.

 

I don't know why, but every time I fix one electrical fault on my car, I also seem to fix a few others that are seemingly unrelated. For example; replaced alternator and now the fuel guage reads accurately. And that 's after first replacing the voltage regulator (to get back onto topic)

 

Kevin

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I replaced mine a few weeks ago. Rather than replace it with the old electro mechanical thing, I used one of the new solid state electronic ones.

What you mean like a flasher unit :unsure:

 

Yes, you just take the speedo out. As Kevin said, take the trip cable out with it don't try to detach it from the speedo. Under the knurled nuts that hold the speedo clamp there may be some earth connections, make sure they get put back when you replace it. There should be a spring washer under each clamp.

 

Oddly enough I found it easier to get at by sprawling on my back across the passenger seat, there seemed to be more room to get my head upside down under the dash.

 

Ivor

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I replaced mine a few weeks ago. Rather than replace it with the old electro mechanical thing, I used one of the new solid state electronic ones. It's a bit fiddly to get to, but not too difficult. Definately disconnect the battery first and then as others have said, remove the drive cable and the trip odometer reset from the dashboard (not from the speedo head as it will break, apparantly), fiddle about to find the clamps held on with knurled nuts and then the speedo will come loose. The lamps for the oil (or is is ign) and turn indicators will fall out and I think I needed to fiddle about with indicator and overdrive switches to remove the speedo, but there's just about emough room without removing the steering wheel.

 

When I put mine back together, I muddled up the lights, so it took several attempts to get it all working again.

 

I don't know why, but every time I fix one electrical fault on my car, I also seem to fix a few others that are seemingly unrelated. For example; replaced alternator and now the fuel guage reads accurately. And that 's after first replacing the voltage regulator (to get back onto topic)

 

Kevin

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Thanks everyone for the helpful replies. The Haynes manual suggests that removing the glovebox gives better access to the back of the instruments. Is this correct? - it is on the other side of the car from the speedo! There is no access from directly underneath?

 

Cheers

 

Steve

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Thanks everyone for the helpful replies. The Haynes manual suggests that removing the glovebox gives better access to the back of the instruments. Is this correct? - it is on the other side of the car from the speedo! There is no access from directly underneath?

 

Cheers

 

Steve

 

 

Hi Steve

 

The Haynes manual know's dick squat as does the brown bible imho :lol: I would read the previous post's and follow there advise

 

Regards

 

Neil

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Thanks everyone for the helpful replies. The Haynes manual suggests that removing the glovebox gives better access to the back of the instruments. Is this correct? - it is on the other side of the car from the speedo! There is no access from directly underneath?

 

Cheers

 

Steve

 

Steve, removing the speedo is a 5 minute project and removing the glove box will just add time and complexity that you dont need.

 

Just disconnect the battery, disconnect the trip cable from its bracket on the dash. Reach underneath and disconnect the speedo drive cable from the back of the speedo. Feel around for the two gnurled nuts and remove them and the clamps that are slid onto the threaded rods and that hold the speedo body tight to the dash. There will be a black ground cable on one of those clamps, it will come off when you remove the nut but dont forget to re-attach it when you re-fit the speedo.

 

With the clamps removed you can pull the speedo body forward. Make sure the trip cable doesnt get tangled up and dont try and remove it from the speedo body. With the speedo pulled forward you can label and disconnect the lamps and the voltage stabilizer wires and fully remove the speedo. I usually just bunch up the wires including that ground wire and let them hang out of the speedo hole in the dash until I'm ready to re-fit.

 

The voltage stabilizer is attached by one screw to the speedo body.

 

Stan

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As an addition to my (and other's) posts, I generally take digital photos of the rear of the instruments or any other electrical dismantling - quick and easy to refer back to... Not that I am forgetful or anything you understand! ;)

 

Removing the glovebox will help not one jot for the purposes of getting to the rear of the speedo...

 

Hope it goes well!!!

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on the LHD models, it is just an act of feel and patience sticking one's fingers up behind the fascia and feeling for the knurled nuts. Once off, slide the brackets off and then carefully push the guage out through the veneer. I assume the RHD are similar.

 

Try doing this with the US dealer installed air conditioning kit in place..what a pain in the *&^; however, since it is 92F today, the a/c is kindof nice.

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