marki Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 Hi All. I'm trying to adjust the door window after fitting a hardtop, the screen appears to be at the wrong angle but if I adjust it so the window sits correctly, then I can't get the rear fixings in ? Any suggestions ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 I did just that last week. You first need to fit the HT front, rear and middle losely. It was a bit of an iterative process, with some pushing and so. Are the rubbers between HT and rear deck sitting ok? And is the HT not resting on the interior trim in front of the tank? Are the inserts from the rear fixings adjusted ok (not screwed in too much) so the HT sits too high? Once it was fitted I noticed one window was almost touching the B-pillar. It had maybe 2 mm clearance. I was (lucky?) able to align the window to the wind screen and the hard top B-pillar, sort off. Looks like your glass should be a bit higher? You need to remove the door card for this. But as said, first get all fixings in, then adjust the glasses, if needed. Nice hard top by the way! Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marki Posted February 26, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 Hi Wadi. Thanks for that, I'm presuming that if the HT fixings are in then the windscreen rake must be right ? cheers Mark. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 Hi Mark, that was not the case on my car. I had adjusted the windows to the soft top frame (did not have a hard top at that time), one side was ok, the other needed correction. I was concerned it would be hard to align but once the door card was out (yes, those pins for the handles), it was corrected in 1/2 hr. Luckily the rake of the windscreen was ok. I used a small diameter (3 mm) screwdriver to “feel” if the bolt holes lined up on the rear shelve. Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marki Posted February 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 Hi Waldi. I can get the window to go higher but the angle along the screen, upper A post is wrong. When I adjust the screen to get this right then the rear fixings don't aligne. Cheers Mark. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 Hi Mark, what are the rear fixings exactly? (sorry, my english). I aligned the side windows such that I divided the clearance both sides as best as possible, but I do not have nice parallel gaps. Maybe you cannot achieve that with our cars, after 50 years on the road, well, I could not. Cheers, Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marki Posted February 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 Hi Waldi. This is the view looking down through the rear screen, as you can see the HD is too far forward but doing this makes the screen and window align. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 Maybe you will have to loosen the wind screen bolts a bit and tilt it backwards to eliminate the missing distance. But first check what that does to the other gaps? Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Warren Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 Hi Mark Do you know if or not the rear deck has been replaced this could be the problem with the misalignment, I had trouble fitting mine but with the window gap a good fit with the soft top did not want to adjust the windows so fitted a make up seal arrangement this was in TR Action a few months ago, also photo below but made it a perfect fit no wind noise or water in. Good luck Keith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marki Posted February 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 Hi Keith. Car was restored 20+ years ago so to be honest I don't know. I think I've got there now, basically robing Peter to pay paul. not perfect but time will tell. I don't remember reading about your modification, what did in intail ? Cheers Mark. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Warren Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 Hi Mark It was about mid 2020 that it was in, looking at a lot of Sixes at shows with hard tops the window gaps alway looked poor and mine did also even at the screen end the trim tapers in on a curve which stops a good seal. I made up sections using thin gauge steel and then with seeking trim adjusted to suit with only self tapping screws retaining it I can send you drawings if you pm me. Cheers Keith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve1 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Hi Mark Don't forget you can adjust (slightly) the angle the door glass sits by slackening off the winder mechanism bolts, you may need to adjust the door glass channel guides too. Its not an exact science i'm afraid -a lot of push/pulling to get the best fit -Good luck! Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 It could also be that you have a TR4/4A glass fitted as the way the rear dips does suggest that to me, heres a 5/6 glass in a 4a you can see where the difference could occur. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 FWIW this is the last TR6 off the line and fitted with hardtop, look at the way the rubbers go. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marki Posted March 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Thanks Stuart. I have bought new glass, not that it's a garentee that it's correct. No difference from the old glass. cheers Mark. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Warren Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Hi Mark I tried to send photos to you but not sure if or not I managed it, so photos of drawings below slowed holes so can be adjusted to suit. Keith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marki Posted March 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Thanks Keith. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 14 hours ago, marki said: Thanks Stuart. I have bought new glass, not that it's a garentee that it's correct. No difference from the old glass. cheers Mark. Yes but do you know they are correct as theres not much visual difference unless you have the two types side by side see pictures below. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marki Posted March 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 That's fantastic Stuart, I'll have a look. As you say there's not a lot of difference. Tahnks again, Mark. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Salisbury Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 Hi Mark, not a lot of help I know, but looking at your pictures, Stuart's pictures (of a 5/6 glass) and then my own definitely 4A glass (fitting a Surrey Hard Top with no gaps) I'm fairly certain that you have a 4A glass ... sorry. Cheers Rob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 17 hours ago, Rob Salisbury said: Hi Mark, not a lot of help I know, but looking at your pictures, Stuart's pictures (of a 5/6 glass) and then my own definitely 4A glass (fitting a Surrey Hard Top with no gaps) I'm fairly certain that you have a 4A glass ... sorry. Cheers Rob The above pictures are of a 4/4a glass and a 5/6 glass so you can definitely see the subtle differences. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marki Posted March 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) Hi Stuart this is the measurement on mine. Presume it's a 6 glass ? Edited March 3, 2022 by marki Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) Look at my pictures especially the first one and you can see its more the rear measurement and the shape of the bottom centre cut out that makes the difference, its really hard to spot unless you have the two side by side and I dont have any of them here now to do the comparison again. Those pictures where taken a few years ago when the proper 4/4a glass became available again and I changed mine from the 5 glasses that were all that was available when I rebuilt mine 28yrs ago. Stuart. Edited March 3, 2022 by stuart Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marki Posted March 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 I presumed the first measurement of 400mm is the 4 and the 410 is the 6 ? I have a 4 in at the moment in the workshop, not sure if I could tell the difference with the glass in the 4. Cheers Mark. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, marki said: I presumed the first measurement of 400mm is the 4 and the 410 is the 6 ? I have a 4 in at the moment in the workshop, not sure if I could tell the difference with the glass in the 4. Cheers Mark. You might be able to if you remove the door card, then you can get a measurement, the 4/4a winder mechanism is different to the 5/6 one and so the lower channel that holds the glass sits at a very slightly different angle and this is why the glasses are just a little different. You`ll also spot that theres a slight difference in the angle of the front and rear edges of the glass. Stuart. Edited March 3, 2022 by stuart Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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