Andy1966 Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Hi All Need your help been bought for Christmas a pair of the seat belt guides and to fit these i need to remove the headrests, is there a special knack or trick to remove these without dismantling the whole seat assembly. Your help would be greatly appreciated thank you Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
astontr6 Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Hi Andy! It depends if the spring steel stops are still fitted in the base of the chrome tubes 725972. If not they should pull straight out, but there were 2 types of friction rollers, one was a coil flat spring which was not good at holding up the head rest. The other was a nylon roller type, I have no experience of this type. The original type you can have problems with re-entering the chrome stem once you pull it out!!!. I modified mine years ago and left the base stops out. If the head restraints don't pull out you will have to remove the back seat cover. If you do, do not be surprised to find broken welds, cracked tubing, disintegrating rubber webbing and foam etc. It could turn out to be very expensive. Good luck, Bruce Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peelie Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Hi Andy Would be interested to see what you think of them when you get them fitted. Regards Barry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OAF939M Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Mine slip down ,but after reading this will leave well alone and rely on the gaffer tape and tie wraps already fitted. Sometimes originality comes at a heavy cost. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Colin Doel Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 I fitted them recently and they work pretty well. One of my head restraints would not come out so I cut the seat belt retainer. The cut was hidden by the head rest and it works fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy1966 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Hi All Managed to depress the spring clips through seat back to release. Really impressed with fitment and the way they function, certainly stop seat beats getting stuck behind the seats. I also like they way they look and "not too bolt on goody" Picture attached Thanks for all your help Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nibbo Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Andy, They look good, where did you get them from ? Kind regards Nigel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-pair-seatbelt-guides-British-Leyland-logo-triumph-TR6-TR7-Jaguar-/181985684429?hash=item2a5f312bcd:g:orgAAOSwrklVYdaK Peter W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Bracher Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Mine are in the post!! Andy, you should contact the supplier for commission!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy1966 Posted January 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Yes thanks really pleased with end result, Correct Ebay purchase & yes i might try for the commission, although i won't hold my breath !!!!! another picture of both seats Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Yes thanks really pleased with end result, Correct Ebay purchase & yes i might try for the commission, although i won't hold my breath !!!!! another picture of both seats Andy You'd be pushed .. but ask them if they have the rights to use the British Leyland swirling plug hole logo. I'm sure BM Heritage will be all over them like a cheap suit if they owned the logo. Peter W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy1966 Posted January 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Would anybody know if something of the nature was available when the cars were new, or is this something thats come about as the cars have become classics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
astontr6 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Hi All! I have seen these items a long time ago! I do not know whether they were OEM Accessory or an Approved After Market BL Item, but looking at the picture of the mouldings. They look to be a quality moulding and when they talk about UV inhibitors in the plastic compound. This suggests to me that the tooling/moulding is not the usual Repro Quality? But I would have to see an actual moulding, to confirm my thoughts, based upon my moulding experience! Bruce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) Back to my previous comment - if these are coming off genuine original factory tooling, who has legal ownership of the tools and the right to use the logo? If BL original they fell into the 'catchall' ownership of BMH unless legally disposed of with correct sign off and scrapping procedure. For many years the 'pirates' of the aftermarket parts world have acquired tooling that was owned by the original vehicle manufacturer or 'backdoored' product off original tooling. The fact that the additional use of the tools caused wear that eventually had to be repaired by the owner of the tools mattered not a jot to the pirate, as they had piled it high and sold it cheap. I oversaw many tools being scrapped that BMH were not interested in like the door casing plastic moulding tools for Triumph Acclaim. I also saw many tools return to production to support a quality worldwide parts distribution network. If you put a car makers logo on your unfit for purpose repro part, the unknowing public will buy it because it's cheap, then curse the car maker for low grade product. Thus damaging the car makers world wide image and tainting the value of the cars. Peter W PS Sorry thread hijack Edited January 12, 2016 by BlueTR3A-5EKT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy1966 Posted January 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 All I notice the ebay supplier also sells these without the BL logo applied, looks like the same fitment and overall dimensions. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-PAIR-NO-LOGO-PLAIN-BLACK-SEATBELT-GUIDES-SINGLE-POST-HEADREST-UNIVERSAL-CAR-/181970478700 Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
astontr6 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 I have to agree with what Peter says but there is a BUT. It depends upon who originally paid for and owned the tooling. If an OE part? What were the terms and conditions of use and sale of the part(s) produced, when originally agreed with BL? Part Nos. Stamps and Logos Marks are usually removable from mould and press tooling! Years ago I worked for a major OEM and After Market Supplier and all the tooling that we produced and used had this feature so that we could supply, all market sectors, including our own Brand. So, if you bought our after market part it was exactly the same as the OE part except for the marking. Bruce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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