Malocomotion Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Alec, rebuilding an Humber "super snipe" will cost you more than rebuilding an Italia ! More doors, more seats, wood, much more leather and chrome, more steel and paint ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Harvey Posted December 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21392/lot/172/#/MR0_page=2&MR0_length=100&MR0_category=list&MR0_currency=GBP&m0=0 £30 - £42k TR4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malocomotion Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 An american restauration : how to make a nice car a beast for concours. bad taste : blue tape, chrome wires, modern Nardi, yellow TR6 fan and so on... overdrive ? for rich americans only ... for me 20K max ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 (edited) As said, it is a buyers' market. When the car is sold for about the asking price (it is a no reserve auction), then, obviously, prices are on the way up. Despite the fact that some of us here think that a proper TR is worth less... Time will tell! Don't forget the fact that an auctioneer also want a part of the pie; making the actual price even higher. And, if prices are indeed up, it's wise to reconsider the value / agreed value insurance for your TR, I think. Menno Edited December 29, 2013 by Menno van Rij 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David James Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 Hello Italia lovers Has it ever been mooted to graft TR6 front wings and panel onto a standard TR4 plus hardtop. Modification to the front panel/bonnet to extend the nose with a period bonnet cut in, loads of fetlling/forming and filling. Do away with the nasty cheap Triumph design of wing to bonnet opening gaps and voila! A cheap Italia look a like. Obviously not for the purist Anybody got a TR4 for me to start on? David Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Hello Italia lovers Has it ever been mooted to graft TR6 front wings and panel onto a standard TR4 plus hardtop. Modification to the front panel/bonnet to extend the nose with a period bonnet cut in, loads of fetlling/forming and filling. Do away with the nasty cheap Triumph design of wing to bonnet opening gaps and voila! A cheap Italia look a like. Obviously not for the purist Anybody got a TR4 for me to start on? David Nurse...nurse he's got out again ! Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 The Humber has never deteriorated to the point of needing rebuilding - respray is required yes, the original paint is long past its best, quick job for the 1958 Motor Show demonstration, and some minor edge metal repair which has already been done. Otherwise it has a good deal of patina. But as for your comments " An american restauration : how to make a nice car a beast for concours. bad taste : blue tape, chrome wires, modern Nardi, yellow TR6 fan and so on... overdrive ? for rich americans only ... " I suggest you are overly concerned with your own perception of good taste and originality over practicality. Originality is not everything, and certainly not in the eyes of those willing to pay for useability as well as appearance. Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malocomotion Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 As usual, you are completely right ! But i'm completely creazy ! For useablity, we have our wonderfull Avantime ! Happy new year ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Harvey Posted December 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Is this the Italia that appears about six minutes into the film "Michelotti's Masterpiece: code name Stag"? The silver Italia with a roof aerial in the triumph Stag video is #244, now owned by Guy Viel. The car won top prize as a visitor to Stoneleigh Star 90 this year. Happy New Year! Edited January 5, 2014 by Paul Harvey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Harvey Posted December 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 and the yellow Italia @ 13 minutes is Revington's yellow peril #250 This is alongside a red Italia with black interior I can't yet identify. It has the early style long boot handle together with the later Altissimo number plate lamp housing so should be approx. between Vignale #123 and #135 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trigbush Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 Thanks Paul. Happy New Year to you sir! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Italia 227 Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 Churchill had Bletchley Park. We have Paul, for all things Italia. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Harvey Posted January 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 See my 'racing' thread if you really want an Italia adventure: http://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/44721-racing-triumph-italias/&do=findComment&comment=352767 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Harvey Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Apologies for the delay. The red Italia@ 12mins50secs in the Stag video is #80 owned by Jorg Von Appen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malocomotion Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Superb investigation about the racing Italia Paul ! very good job ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jean Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Does Van Appen now own 2 Italias.... I saw his pictures of the old english white Italia what's brand new ( 27km on the clock ) That's what I would call a show car Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jean Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Does Van Appen now own 2 Italias.... I saw his pictures of the old english white Italia what's brand new ( 27km on the clock ) That's what I would call a show car Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Harvey Posted January 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 At one time Mr Von Appen owned 5 Italias but I am not sure which ones he owns now. The white car #126 with virtually only delivery mileage is still his I believe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trigbush Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 I think I met him once at the Red Baron Garage. Very pleasant gentleman. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21392/lot/172/#/MR0_page=2&MR0_length=100&MR0_category=list&MR0_currency=GBP&m0=0 £30 - £42k TR4 21K GBP. Malocomotion was spot on! http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21392/lot/172/#/MR0_page=2&MR0_length=100&MR0_category=list&MR0_currency=GBP&m0=0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Harvey Posted January 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 I can confirm that Mr Von Appen still owns white Italia #126 with delivery mileage only and the Revington prepared race Italia #210. Both are potentially for sale to discerning collectors only. We are collaborating over research on the only period race Italia yet documented which is the subject of another thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malocomotion Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Thanks Menno! Buyers are wise ! and monney too rare nowadays. Wait the next auction for an Italia ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trigbush Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 What's the going on the white Italia do you think Paul? Must be special. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Harvey Posted January 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 100,000 euros? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malocomotion Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 for crazy ... and discerning collector only !!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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