theredtr6 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Hello Forum, Well the cold weather has put my rebuild enthusiasm on ice for a few weeks but now im off and running again - So having just got my block and crank back from the shop Im turning my attention to the parts of the engine I will replace - Cam Followers - now does anyone have an opinion here on 1) Standard kit 2) standard with hole to allow oil drain 3) Moss lightened followers.. So like most people I understand that its good to have light and strong followers so with that basic principle anybody got anything postive or negative to say re these three variants or any others? Thanks Steve www.mytr6.co.uk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rien Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Hi, I have used for many 2500 engines the Moss TT1209 followers, with very results but they are a crime to instal on a block with not worn out bores ( bad English I think). They have bored out the original followers, this made the outer diameter a little bigger (only on the bored part of the hight) so this part off the follower will not slide in the bore, I have all of them polished in the lathe to make them correctly fit, last engine I have 3-4 hour work on this. I have discussed this with Jeff Marks and on the end hi suggest to sent me a set std followers for compensation. but I don't want that ......! Next time a will test a set from Goodparts with the drain hole, I think that are better for lubricating te cam, but they are heavier than the Moss items. Or if you can find them buy a set from AE, They are heavy but do not destroy your camshaft. The right choice are very importend and don't forged the running-in lubricant!!!! Rien Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theredtr6 Posted February 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Hi Rien, Thank you that is exactly the sort of info I am looking for - So Moss lightened followers are off my list now - On the followers with a drain hole - I think the concept is simple and a good one re cam lube - someone told me they are weakened with this relatively minor hole - I notice that TR Enterprises do these - I will ask them who supplies them - Re the lube - O yes I agree with that.. Thanks Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rpurchon Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Hi Rien, Thank you that is exactly the sort of info I am looking for - So Moss lightened followers are off my list now - On the followers with a drain hole - I think the concept is simple and a good one re cam lube - someone told me they are weakened with this relatively minor hole - I notice that TR Enterprises do these - I will ask them who supplies them - Re the lube - O yes I agree with that.. Thanks Steve i had some with holes in and my cam still wore out. i dont think theyre supposed to help with lubrication.there supposed to be lighter because they arent full of oil. which is bull.when the engines running it all gets thrown up onto rockers. if you old ones are ok put them back in. if not get a set of std ones from newman cams. richard http://www.newman-cams.com/catalogue.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theredtr6 Posted February 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Thanks Richard - Have you fitted the Newman followers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rpurchon Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Thanks Richard - Have you fitted the Newman followers? yes and new newman cam. richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRTOM2498PI Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 I have a Newman cam, ground from a blank. Also ordered direct from Newman at the same time, his competition steel followers. Car has done 11k miles of HARD driving, and 5 track days, engine is silent and smooth, so far so good. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRTOM2498PI Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) Here is a little footage from Goodwood: Edited February 20, 2012 by TRTOM2498PI Quote Link to post Share on other sites
D1070 Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Having witnessed Toms car on the CT 10'CR last Sept it is driven HARD!, cheers, Laurence Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRTOM2498PI Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Thanks, Laurence. Yes, it was good fun, as you will re-call Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theredtr6 Posted February 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 thank you guys Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roulli Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Hi Steve I wouldn't change followers without changing the cam, as these parts wear in together I'm using Newman cam and std Newman followers Used also ZDDP paste from Goodparts to wear in Regards Patrick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theredtr6 Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Hi Roullie, Yep doing that - Will be having a MOSS /Triumphtune Sprint 90 cam probably - But just wasnt sure on best followers- Thanks Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Douglas Winn Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 If a follower is sticking does that mean there is something wrong with the block which has to be dealt with? Or will new followers get rid of the problem? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Moltu Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 If the old follower is sticking it may well reflect a damaged, worn follower which has mushroomed. It may just be a ring of gum at the top of the path of the old follower which has built up stopping the old follower from being lifted out When the head is off - check the bore very carefully for damage before putting the new one in and remove any gumming. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Douglas Winn Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Andy looking at your reply can I assume that the block will not have to be bored out in this area? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytr5 Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 I used Newman cam and his chilled iron followers.Although more expensive(followers) I do not want any more grief in this department.My last cam and followers were of the plastic variety.Be careful out there.Used plenty of cam lube and you do not have to run in the cam according to Dave Newman (owner of Newman Cams) No huge clearances on the tappets either. Regards Harry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Britcarfan Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) Nah! - Get yerself a set of cam followers like This!! To go with the pistons that look like this!! (rings were found in the sump!!) Yahoo !! Edited February 8, 2017 by Britcarfan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike3739 Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Speechless Cheers Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Britcarfan Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) The gentleman assured me this engine had not seized!! (yeah right!). On investigation I found that one of the core plugs on the front end - the one inside the timing cover had rusted through, dumping the entire water supply into the oil, so the engine was 'lubricated' by an emulsion of oil, water and very gritty rust. The oil pump represented a ploughed field, and in the sump along with the bits of rings were flakes of rust! Yummy. Edited February 9, 2017 by Britcarfan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
astontr6 Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Hi All, Nothing wrong with Newman Cams! But also use his nitrited cam followers only, both parts s/b always replaced together. Also some engine re- builders will not use valve springs stronger than TR5 types because of the ware problems on cam lobes and follower bases. Britcarfan ----- Your cam follower looks to me as it was rusted in at some point, by looking at the side of that follower? Bruce Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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