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Hi all,

 

Following on from dblenk's thread, how easy would it be to get a 3.45 ratio diff in good condition rebuilt as a 3.7 or 3.9? Of course by easy, I mean cheap! Could I do it myself or is this a job for a specialist? Thanks

 

PS: this is how not to tow a TR chassis. Great on the flat and going uphill but tends to get stuck under land rovers when facing down a slope! We were too excited to think about braking. Close shave...

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Hi all,

 

Following on from dblenk's thread, how easy would it be to get a 3.45 ratio diff in good condition rebuilt as a 3.7 or 3.9?

 

 

You only need the crown wheel and pinion that decides the ratio, however if you go down the 3.45 route you need to source an original

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Following on from dblenk's thread, how easy would it be to get a 3.45 ratio diff in good condition rebuilt as a 3.7 or 3.9? Of course by easy, I mean cheap! Could I do it myself or is this a job for a specialist?

 

Specialist.

However, saloon diffs are cheap, buy one fit it try it see if you like the ratio before you make a commitment of a few hundred quid.

Here's how to fit it:

http://www.tr-regist...view=&hl=saloon +diff&fromsearch=1

 

I have a useable 3.7 with TR flange and rear casing. The very same one that stars in the above topic. Hums a bit leaks a bit, done 4,000 with me and many thousand miles of life left, no longer needed as I have my lsd now - £50.

Only trouble is, it's here and you're there... unsure.gif

 

Ivor

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Specialist.

However, saloon diffs are cheap, buy one fit it try it see if you like the ratio before you make a commitment of a few hundred quid.

Here's how to fit it:

http://www.tr-regist...view=&hl=saloon +diff&fromsearch=1

 

I have a useable 3.7 with TR flange and rear casing. The very same one that stars in the above topic. Hums a bit leaks a bit, done 4,000 with me and many thousand miles of life left, no longer needed as I have my lsd now - £50.

Only trouble is, it's here and you're there... unsure.gif

 

Ivor

 

 

Ivor

Come on,the full story please ;)

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Come on,the full story please wink.gif

 

What blink.gif

More than that thread I linked.... you are a glutton for punishment.

I just finished editing some pics for a new thread on fitting the Nissan lsd. Maybe tomorrow.

 

Ivor

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What blink.gif

More than that thread I linked.... you are a glutton for punishment.

I just finished editing some pics for a new thread on fitting the Nissan lsd. Maybe tomorrow.

 

Ivor

 

 

Does it whine or clunk? punishment bring it on your selling it ;)

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Dropped Ivor an email.

 

Just found this on ebay: 3.7 CWP

 

Is this all I would need to convert a 3.45 to a 3.7?

Apart from a new oil seal maybe. Thanks

 

 

Reading between the lines of the auction page, I'm sure this CW&P

would have been s/h when the "rebuild" was done.

Given the other problems with this rebuild, you have to be more

than a bit suspicious as to it's condition.

 

Also, I think it's a bit expensive for a CW&P anyway. But yes,it's

all you would need to convert from 3.45 to 3.7.

 

BUT - I would agree with previous posts that for a TR6, it's far

better to stick with the 3.45.

 

AlanR

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BUT - I would agree with previous posts that for a TR6, it's far

better to stick with the 3.45.

 

AlanR

 

 

Thanks Alan, just trying to get my head around it. Its not for now anyway. Haven't even started removing the seats from the 6 yet, let alone rebuilding on the new chassis! I want mine to be more track focused than before. Will aim to drop the weight and fit a 3.7 first and get the engine worked on if and when I can eventually afford it. I already have a 3.45 so there's no harm in trying something different. :blink:

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Hi Eli

 

i got a TR4 diff by default and changed the rear casing, someone should have a american diff these were 3.7, like Ivor said try it out then commit, thats what i am doing

 

i got a link from MK1 or Ivor i think linking to a "mintylamb" and there is quite a lot of info on engine and diff ratios there

 

cheer

 

david

 

PS did you sort your exhaust manifold out

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try it out then commit, thats what i am doing

 

i got a link from MK1 or Ivor i think linking to a "mintylamb" and there is quite a lot of info on engine and diff ratios there

 

PS did you sort your exhaust manifold out

 

 

Hi David,

 

I'm going to take Ivor's 3.7 off his hands when I get back. Do you mean my manifold or Ivor's? I've still got the 6-1 on mine, thinking about changing to a Phoenix manifold for better torque next year. Need to restore the car first!

 

I've played around with the mintylamb site. How accurate have you found it to be? As far as I know, my TR6 is a standard 1971 CP (pi) with A type overdrive and 15/65 15 tyres. According to the calculator, 70mph should be at 2665rpm and 80mph at 3045rpm. Haven't driven the car for over 6 months and haven't had a working speedo for 3 years but I'm pretty sure that 70mph saw around 3000rpm and 80mph took about 3500-3700rpm. Will definitely be playing with a dwell meter and GPS when the beast is finally up and running again.

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Does it whine or clunk? punishment bring it on your selling it wink.gif

 

No whine, just a musical hum, unchanged over 4,000 miles. Clonk no but not perfect hence £50. I wouldn't expect it to last forever but it will do a couple of years at least and well worth it to try the ratio. Have swapped diffs twice now, each time about 10% lower, it's amazing what difference a 10% ratio change makes to the feel of the car.

 

I've played around with the mintylamb site. How accurate have you found it to be? As far as I know, my TR6 is a standard 1971 CP (pi) with A type overdrive and 15/65 15 tyres. According to the calculator, 70mph should be at 2665rpm and 80mph at 3045rpm. Haven't driven the car for over 6 months and haven't had a working speedo for 3 years but I'm pretty sure that 70mph saw around 3000rpm and 80mph took about 3500-3700rpm.

It's just an arithmetical expression, so exactly accurate. I would suspect your speedo and tacho. However it may be of course that you already have a 3.7... chalk the flanges turn the diff by hand, carefully count the turns.

 

Ivor

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It's just an arithmetical expression, so exactly accurate. I would suspect your speedo and tacho. However it may be of course that you already have a 3.7... chalk the flanges turn the diff by hand, carefully count the turns.

 

Ivor

 

 

I'm puzzled. Last time I checked the tacho, it was under-reading too. The figures make it look like I have a 4.1 which I'm pretty sure isn't the case. Have an extra incentive to get the car down to the bare metal now.

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Hi Eli

 

we spoke about your 6-1 manifold, but i guess you are going for a 6-3-1 pheonix which by the forum is the best

 

i found the mintylamb site very good and proved my own calcs form measuring etc

 

it gives a guide if nothing else

 

i will post how things are when i get my diff done probably around xmas now

 

cheers

 

david

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Hi Eli

 

we spoke about your 6-1 manifold, but i guess you are going for a 6-3-1 pheonix which by the forum is the best

 

i found the mintylamb site very good and proved my own calcs form measuring etc

 

it gives a guide if nothing else

 

i will post how things are when i get my diff done probably around xmas now

 

cheers

 

david

 

 

I love the noise from the 6-1 single big bore and top end power is good but not as useful as lots of mid-range torque. Looking forward to reading about your diff adventures.

 

E

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Hi Eli

 

I thought i was getting a bargin but the CWP are F*** eh not very good

 

more money, should have listened to the wife rebuilt the 5 and bugger the 6

 

the lad doing the diff will see me OK so i have to pay an extra £175

 

not nice right on xmas, the guy who sold said it was bearing noise, but roy who is doing the diff said if must have had a hell of a racket

 

right thats me finished moaning over

 

i will report when i get it sorted and in teh car

 

cheers

 

david

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Hi Eli

 

I thought i was getting a bargin but the CWP are F*** eh not very good

 

more money, should have listened to the wife rebuilt the 5 and bugger the 6

 

the lad doing the diff will see me OK so i have to pay an extra £175

 

not nice right on xmas, the guy who sold said it was bearing noise, but roy who is doing the diff said if must have had a hell of a racket

 

right thats me finished moaning over

 

i will report when i get it sorted and in teh car

 

cheers

 

david

 

 

Cheer up David at least you will know it's a good'un ;)

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Thanks for that Neil

 

its been a busy week so just catching up now

 

Roys going to sort it so yes it will be good

 

the heads coming on

 

the engine i am going to use Northern Rebore in Newcastle the guy there does classics / Vintage and has old cars himself he said to me my engine was modern !!!!!!!!

 

cheers

 

david

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I have an CR TR to which I fiited a replacement 4.1 diff which I believe is a USA ratio spec diff ~ cannot give any on the road comparasions though as this motor has been in the garage awhile. robin

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