Guest ntc Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Hi All It seems they are no longer available what is the best alternative? Thank's Neil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 I used a Lucas wiper switch 158453, but then you have to use a Double Pole Normally Open (DPNO) relay after, since low speed connect brown AND red to black, whereas the Lucas switch only connects ONE wire to black per position. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RAHTR4 Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Neil, Does this Lucas switch fit the requirement? It has two switch positions, the first for side lights and the second for the headlamps, it also has a operation for flashing the headlamps by pulling the stalk upwards towards the steering wheel. The black plastic end to the stalk is a different shape to the original switches of my TR4, however I am not sure what they are supposed to look like on a TR5. Regards, Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 (edited) Neil, Does this Lucas switch fit the requirement? It has two switch positions, the first for side lights and the second for the headlamps, it also has a operation for flashing the headlamps by pulling the stalk upwards towards the steering wheel. The black plastic end to the stalk is a different shape to the original switches of my TR4, however I am not sure what they are supposed to look like on a TR5. Regards, Richard Hi Richard Many thanks but the Tr5 switch is on the dash but food for thought? Regards Neil Edited February 14, 2009 by ntc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fremont Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Many thanks but the Tr5 switch is on the dash News to me! Both Bill Piggott's and Graham Robson's books show RHD and LHD cars resectively with a column switch for these functions. Richard's picture looks like the right one to me ( unless it's wrong-handed - can't tell ). Maybe you've got a later TR6 dash arrangement You had me worried - I will double check 1st but based on your dire news about unavailability I was about to bid a ransom on a NOS column switch.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tthomson Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 News to me! Both Bill Piggott's and Graham Robson's books show RHD and LHD cars resectively with a column switch for these functions. Richard's picture looks like the right one to me ( unless it's wrong-handed - can't tell ). Maybe you've got a later TR6 dash arrangement You had me worried - I will double check 1st but based on your dire news about unavailability I was about to bid a ransom on a NOS column switch.. I know on my TR4A the light switch is column mounted. I was very surprised to hear that this TR5 has a dash mounted version. TT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trfella Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Headlight switch should be column mounted on TR5/250, and CP TR6. If you are looking for a dash switch, there's one on ebay at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 I would check again and then some more I will stand corrected but I have owned three Tr 5's and all was dash mounted the car I have now has had two previous owners and the paper work is correct having checked it there is no modification to the wiring apart from what I have done Neil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 I used a Lucas wiper switch 158453, but then you have to use a Double Pole Normally Open (DPNO) relay after, since low speed connect brown AND red to black, whereas the Lucas switch only connects ONE wire to black per position. Sorry I thought you meant WIPER switch - forget my answer which was for the wiper switch not the headlight switch! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 (edited) Sorry I thought you meant WIPER switch - forget my answer which was for the wiper switch not the headlight switch! Hi Brett You have maybe given me away around it, it's just the wiring again Regards Neil Edited February 14, 2009 by ntc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Headlight switch should be column mounted on TR5/250, and CP TR6. If you are looking for a dash switch, there's one on ebay at the moment. Where? Neil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR 2100 Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) Where? Neil Allow me http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TRIUMPH-TR6...1QQcmdZViewItem Check his other items as well. AlanR Edited February 15, 2009 by TR 2100 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Allow me http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TRIUMPH-TR6...1QQcmdZViewItem Check his other items as well. AlanR Thanks Alan but unfortunatly both are incorrect Neil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PILKIE Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 I'm intrigued!!!!! All the pics,and info I've seen of the TR5 dash only show wash and wipe rocker switches,and the dash light dimmer switch! Same as the early TR6's!! And the main headlight, off,side,main,flash switch on the left side of the column!! With the dip/main switch on the floor for the left foot!! Can you post a piccy of your light switch position Neil??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) Well here you go Dave if it is wrong then so be it the wiper switch above is also spring loaded to operate washer's however this is busted also. The second pic show's no foot dip switch there is no hole's in the foot well for mounting the switch unlike my CP 6 and the other 5's . The wiring to the light switch has not been altered and the left column stalk is dip/main beam Regards Neil Edited February 15, 2009 by ntc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harbottle Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Well here you go Dave if it is wrong then so be it the wiper switch above is also spring loaded to operate washer's however this is busted also. The second pic show's no foot dip switch there is no hole's in the foot well for mounting the switch unlike my CP 6 . The wiring to the light switch has not been altered and the left column stalk is dip/main beam Regards Neil Hi Neil, my TR5 is exactly the same as yours on the dash. My paper work shows as original and no alteration to wiring. All the best PS Ramp is working great, very glad I bought it/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PILKIE Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) Is this the one you are after??? Light Switch I wonder what the history is of why there is a difference in production?? Maybe it was meant to be a ckd and didnt make it out of the country,and they used up parts to make a few on the production line??? Edited February 15, 2009 by PILKIE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Is this the one you are after??? Light Switch I wonder what the history is of why there is a difference in production?? Maybe it was meant to be a ckd and didnt make it out of the country,and they used up parts to make a few on the production line??? Hi Dave Read my reply earlier the correct switch has five terminals and no it was not ckd as i said my other 5's were the same. Paul thank god they all must have thought i was bonkers glad you got the ramp you will not regret it Regards Neil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
67_gt6 Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 GT6s of the same vintage also had dash mounted lights. bit of a pain to be honest. andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PILKIE Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Hi Neil. I read your post,saw the switch,looks the same, sadly I cant see round the back to count the terminals!! Its the thought that counts! I didnt say it WAS a ckd,only that it may have been destined to be but was stopped at some point,and used some of the parts from one on the production line as other stock was short supply! Dave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) Hi Neil. I read your post,saw the switch,looks the same, sadly I cant see round the back to count the terminals!! Its the thought that counts! I didnt say it WAS a ckd,only that it may have been destined to be but was stopped at some point,and used some of the parts from one on the production line as other stock was short supply! Dave Hi Dave No prob's thanks now you will see why it is so hard to find Cheers Neil Edited February 15, 2009 by ntc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fremont Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 This tale leaves a few loose ends - for example, where' s your wiper switch, Neil Or, where's the washer switch? Wouldn't the wiring loom reach either way? The turn signal tip looks odd too Since the LHD cars' dimmer switch is located on a sheet metal pedestal at the outboard side of the footwell I supposed likewise for the RHD cars. ( Your photo shows the inboard side ) On the other hand that would require releasing the accelerator to operate it. Hmmm... Anyhow, what should we make of the column switches in the referenced cars in the aforementioned bibles? As for " paperwork " - your world is quite different than ours if records of switch changes are compulsory. The very idea would make most Yanks laugh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PILKIE Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 I presume the high beam and flash is on the left stalk? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) This tale leaves a few loose ends - for example, where' s your wiper switch, Neil Or, where's the washer switch? Wouldn't the wiring loom reach either way? The turn signal tip looks odd too Since the LHD cars' dimmer switch is located on a sheet metal pedestal at the outboard side of the footwell I supposed likewise for the RHD cars. ( Your photo shows the inboard side ) On the other hand that would require releasing the accelerator to operate it. Hmmm... Anyhow, what should we make of the column switches in the referenced cars in the aforementioned bibles? As for " paperwork " - your world is quite different than ours if records of switch changes are compulsory. The very idea would make most Yanks laugh Hi Tom laugh away look closer the turn signal as you say is the overdrive changed to a momentary switch. Dave correct Neil Edited February 15, 2009 by ntc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tthomson Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Well here you go Dave if it is wrong then so be it the wiper switch above is also spring loaded to operate washer's however this is busted also. The second pic show's no foot dip switch there is no hole's in the foot well for mounting the switch unlike my CP 6 and the other 5's . The wiring to the light switch has not been altered and the left column stalk is dip/main beam Regards Neil Hi Neil, What column switches are on your TR5 and what do they do? My assumptions are: RHS indicators overdrive switch (momentary of otherwise) LHS Headlamp flasher ? I would be very interested to know for an article I am working on. Thanks TT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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