unclepete Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Typical - 2 weeks to Malvern and the nearside rear wire wheel develops a nice coating of oil! Stripped down the drum and the axle is weeping hypoid oil at the seal. I might have not greased this as much as I should as the nipple was blocked (now replaced). I have heard that the only thing that keeps the Hypoid Oil in, is the grease at the bearings? Is it worth pumping her up with grease and seeing if it holds up or is it a new set of seals? Help. Unc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uvc166 Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Unclepete, it will be the oilseal inside the axle tube that,s gone , just fit new seal it's an easy job. cheers paul. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richardtr3a Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 I had the same problem last week and there are two oil seals which have to go in the right way round. My half shaft has a rough band where the oil seal sits and the new seal fitted this time last year. only lasted 3,000 miles. I now have a second hand shaft fitted and two new oil seals and new brake shoes, which had become contaminated past surface cleaning. Good luck:) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marvmul Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Seals with double lips are available through TR Enterprises and other specialists, and they really are much better than the standard ones. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unclepete Posted July 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 I think I'll give Jonlar's solution a try first! The fact that the shaft rotates through the oil seals must mean a small amount of clearance. Ergo Hypoid Oil is more liquid than grease, therefore less grease the easier it is for the Hypoid to pass? I Hope. I'll keep you all posted. Ta all for the suggestions, I'll either be at Malvern in a TR or a Jap Can! Unc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Smith Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 I think I'll give Jonlar's solution a try first! Unc Have I missed something, where is Jon's advice? ??? Or was it a PM? My oil seal has also just gone, planning on changing it on Saturday (along with a Diaphragm clutch conversion) so interested in what Jon said. Cheers Andrew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jonlar Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Sorry Andrew, it was a PM - contents below:- "Got to be worth giving it a load of HMP grease Pete, then suck it and see, a mate of mine (a "professional" motor fitter) always used to laugh at me, because I'd always smear all gaskets and seals with grease before assembly - found it worked better than Hermetite and easily came apart next time with no scraping - he stopped laughing when I had his Princess 1800 wedge for use as a Taxi, because it had always leaked oil in so many places, what the hell did you use to stop the leaks? he asked after it had been given a clean bill of health by the Council Vehicle Inspector of Hackney Carriages - he stopped laughing when I told him Castrol LM Grease!" Another point with some grease under pressure is that it tends to push the oil seal lip out and tighter to the shaft. Another advantage of using grease on gaskets is that any excess doesn't permanently block oil or water ways but clears as it's heated, unlike gasket sealing compounds which can set, move and block passageways. Very interested to see Marv's advice re double-lipped oil seals, some time ago I advised another Forum user to try to get some D/L seals - what is the Part No. Marv. and who actually sells them please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Smith Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Cheers Jon, that's worth a go first I reckon. Andrew PS, gotta dash, the Sweeney is on! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jonlar Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Sssshhhhhh Andrew, I told you that in confidence! Aaahhh, my secret is out, I've found that Channel 038 on the digital tv box is Men and Motors, they repeat The Sweeney and The Professionals, worth watching for the contemporary motors, even if they are mainly Fords, although the other day the 'villains' an Austin Pininafarina through the undergrowth and all over the road. They also showed some of the recent Barrett and Jackson car auction footage. I used to be a GOG (Grumpy Old Git), now my better half thinks I'm a SOG! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unclepete Posted July 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Seems dry so far? I want to see if it holds up before I change the (now hypoid sodden) brake pads. Not many hills in Essex so I don't need too much handbrake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marvmul Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Very interested to see Marv's advice re double-lipped oil seals, some time ago I advised another Forum user to try to get some D/L seals - what is the Part No. Marv. and who actually sells them please. TR Enterprises sells these 'Twin lip neoprene seals' for the Girling Axle, the part no is TRE185. Perhaps other specialists sell these seals too? I didn't find it in the new Moss TR2-TR4A catalogue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jonlar Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Thanks Marvmul. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unclepete Posted July 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 gave the hubs another good squirt of grease this morning. good couple of hours run in boiling weather, even opened her up to 'just over 70 officer' (flat out) and all looks OK. If I'm a Malvern then all is well (hopefully, touch wood, cross fingers, spin round 3 times and kiss my a**e) see you there Unc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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