woodward Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Hello I am in the process of re-furbishing the heater box on my TR4. Everything's dismantled and it's about to go to the powder coaters. On the side is the Smiths logo etc painted on. The parts book seems to show that the Smith logo etc was on a plate that was stuck/riveted on. Before I blast off the painted logo and regret it, can someone let me know whether these boxes orginally came with painted or stuck on Smiths logos? Thanks Myles Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bob-menhennett Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Myles The Triumph Motor Company Ltd Spare Parts Catologue shows plates on the side of the heater and the usual suppliers sell metal reproduction plates. My late TR4 came with two stuck on labels, one the Smiths code FHR 3494/04 the other a Caution notice re draining the unit. Sticky labels.....a cost cutting exercise by Smiths at some stage ? Not sure if this helps or confuses. Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Hi Myles, A plate label seems to have been usual for Smiths heaters until the early 60s. I've seen various heaters from the mid-60s onwards that have had either plates or sprayed-on (as opposed to stick-on) labels. Possibly something to do with industrial action interrupting the supply of name plates ? That's only a guess, in so much as there doesn't seem to have been any consistency, although painted labels seem much less common. Cheers, Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR 2100 Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Hello I am in the process of re-furbishing the heater box on my TR4. Everything's dismantled and it's about to go to the powder coaters. On the side is the Smiths logo etc painted on. The parts book seems to show that the Smith logo etc was on a plate that was stuck/riveted on. Before I blast off the painted logo and regret it, can someone let me know whether these boxes orginally came with painted or stuck on Smiths logos? Hi Myles, If the logo is painted on now, then almost certainly that's the original. I noticed this item on eBay today : http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...A:IT&ih=003 Could be of interest but you're a real stickler for originality, i.e. declining a plate on the grounds that the original was a sticker (that would be setting new 'standards') then you'll have to mask off the label when you blast off the paint and talk very very nicely to the powder coaters. AlanR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marvmul Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Could be of interest but you're a real stickler for originality, i.e. declining a plate on the grounds that the original was a sticker (that would be setting new 'standards') then you'll have to mask off the label when you blast off the paint and talk very very nicely to the powder coaters. AlanR If a restoration is about originality, can powder coating be accepted and a plate (original as it seems to most TR4-TR4A's) be rejected? I wonder what judges think of powder coated chassis and suspension parts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR 2100 Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 If a restoration is about originality, can powder coating be accepted and a plate (original as it seems to most TR4-TR4A's) be rejected? I wonder what judges think of powder coated chassis and suspension parts? I don't think the judges go quite that far - yet? But yes, there are many anomalies with what is marked up and what is marked down in concours, not just our own concours but throughout the classic car scene. AlanR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woodward Posted July 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Thanks for all the info. Good point about the originality of powder coating. I'm not trying to build a concours car just one which is reliable and will not rust. I do however like to keep the car as original as possible where I'm not making any upgrades. Keeping the painted on info looks to be a step too far since a plate could also be considered original so looks like it will be coming off and replaced with new shiny powder coat... Thanks Myles Quote Link to post Share on other sites
driver Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Hello I am in the process of re-furbishing the heater box on my TR4. Everything's dismantled and it's about to go to the powder coaters. On the side is the Smiths logo etc painted on. The parts book seems to show that the Smith logo etc was on a plate that was stuck/riveted on. Before I blast off the painted logo and regret it, can someone let me know whether these boxes orginally came with painted or stuck on Smiths logos? Thanks Myles Quote Link to post Share on other sites
driver Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Hello I re furbed my heater box in my 4A,and I think they are the same as the 4.The logos on the side of my heater were transfers,as I remember,they were not badges that were stuck on,one point I would make is make sure all the sponge sealers go back on the flap as it wont work nearly as efficiently as I found out .I hope this helps Driver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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