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My car is 1969 model with the A type overdrive fitted. All has been working well until yesterday when the overdrive started clicking in and out randomly. I carried out a small static investigation today, only to find that it had got worse. Thankfully I haven’t tried to move the car because at the moment as soon as the ignition switch is turned on the overdrive solenoid clicks in regardless of gear lever position. I have carried out a continuity test on the overdrive switch by disconnecting it under the dash and putting a multimeter on it. The switch is functioning correctly.

With my limited electrical knowledge, I suspect a faulty relay, but welcome any other ideas.

Does anyone know where the overdrive relay is situated?

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Thanks for such a quick reply Mike, but I have just come in from testing the inhibitor circuit with a multi meter. I get a circuit in 2,3 and 4 gears only which means that all is functioning correctly and takes me back to the relay. I have located it next to the fuse box and have a spare 12 volt auto relay I had intended for the fuel pump.

Does anyone know how the 85, 87, 86, 30 marked terminals from a model relay marry up to the C1, C2, W1, W2 terminals of the original?

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Hi Ashley,

C1 - 12 Power in

C2 - Power out to the solenoid

W1 - 12v  into the winding (either from the column switch or ignition)

W2 - winding out (with to the column switch or the isolator switch)

 

https://www.vehiclewiringproducts.co.uk/c-219-relays-flasher-units/p-642-12v-4-blade-type-b 

This is a modern relay.

85 - into the coil winding

86 - out of the coil winding

30 - 12v Power in 

87 - power out to the solenoid.

 

Roger

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The solenoid actuation is adjustable on the A type overdrive. When I had a similar problem some years ago, careful adjustment got it workng again. 

Nigel

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Thanks for your responses gents.

It appears that the issue was with the relay, not bad after 52 years. However as it has been intermittent I can’t be sure until I have some more miles under my belt.

For anyone who is interested, I got through a couple of relays with diodes in them because I put the fed to the relay coil the wrong way round. Eg I put W1 - 85 and W2 - 86. Apparently for relays without diodes it doesn’t matter, but if the relay has a diode 85 must be the earth.

So the correct wiring for the overdrive relay is:

 

C1 - 30

C2 - 87

W1 - 86

W2 - 85.

Hope this helps anyone dealing with a similar problem in the future.

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