TRier
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5 hours ago, John Morrison said:
Good luck with your search, and glad to see you are still at it - young man.
John.
Hi John, still at it is right. Thanks for responding, hope all is well with you. Hey here's a funny one for you, in the bag of parts on that 4 was all the bits for the backlight, surrey and even the soft top (with the frame/sticks) but.... no windscreen capping
, fortunately I have one of those that a man gave me as a consolation prize on a deal that didnt come off! I hope that generosity came back to you tenfold in the interim, as these things should.
Niall
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6 minutes ago, stuart said:
Well done for getting them both. Maybe see you at Malvern to chat then?
Stuart.
Super, I'll come and find you, I'll get your number from Niall Callery or Dan Riordan.
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6 minutes ago, stuart said:
Talk to Niall Power as Im sure he has brought in projects.
Stuart.
Hi Stuart, I talk to that silly bugger everyday but people find it strange.......
Niall Power- TRier
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7 minutes ago, stuart said:
Hope you bought the Etype as well.
Stuart.
Hi Stuart, it was an interesting one, I bought the pair on the basis of remove them and then return the shed and conservatory and garden to to as found condition. They were in a shed at the bottom of a garden with no clear route out to the front, the shed had been rebuilt in the 40 years and rebuilt literally around the cars and equally there had been a lean too covered patio installed between the back garden and the route out! Had to be done over the bank holiday weekend so single handed, it'll be a great story over a few pints one day
Niall
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41 minutes ago, stuart said:
No number plate with the car? That may possibly point to the original reg having been transferred to another car.
Stuart.
Hi Stuart, thats very possible, anything is possible really after this long. The vendor had been in touch with the DVLA by e mail and as they apparently couldnt identify the reg from the VIN they said he could apply for a new number and get an age appropriate number, that looked like a good route for him but it transpired that he could do that provided the car was "complete" and could be inspected. That was a deal breaker for him as he wasnt in a position to do that. I could do it albeit with some non technical difficulties but difficulties nonetheless, which would make just finding the original reg and applying for replacement paperwork much more attractive. I dont want to bore everyone with the details but I'm in Ireland and will want to import the car, since Brexit the only way to economically do that is to do it with an unrestored bag of bones. So bit of a catch 22, if I make it complete and MOTable then I can get a reg but can't bring it home without punitive taxes, if I cant make it complete and possibly MOTable then I cant get a registration and cant bring it home either. Check if not checkmate!
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15 hours ago, TwinCamJohn said:
Does the Heritage cert give the dealer delivery ? If not, what dealers would there have been in Croydon at that time? I expect you have already looked at that. From where did the vendor get the car?
Hi John, it was Carrs Autos in Croydon, I've googled them and not surprisingly they dont exsit any longer so probably not much going to come out of that line of enquiry. The chap who sold it to me is an elderly expat who has lived overseas for 40 years now, like many expats I guess he always planned to come back to UK at some point but has now decided that at his age its not going to happen and is selling up the house he used to live in and where the cars were stored. Back in the day this chap was certainly a car guy and had several interesting cars, this TR4 he bought dismantled, as in all the body panels off, from his neighbour at the time and drove it into his shed, a few months later he went out to the far east on a contract, planning to return and take up his life in a few months. Whilst he visited the UK occasionally after that he never returned in any real sense so the paperwork and history on that car is patchy to non existent. The neighbour is long since gone and they lost touch sp no recourse that way, in any case you'd be asking an elderly gentleman "do you remember that car you sold in bits 40 years ago", probably not much would come out of that even if there was a contact route.
I wouldn't like to give the impression that the vendor was in any way an air head, I bought two cars from him and the second one has MOTs back to 1977 and perfect records, the 4 just fell between the cracks in the floor boards a little at a somewhat chaotic time. A very nice and wholly competent man in fact. It was a very interesting and fun barnfind/rescue
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1 hour ago, Keith Wigglesworth said:
Hi TRier
i would ask the tr4 registrar to check his records in case the car was ever owned by a tr register member.
KeithHi Keith, yeah I’ve done that and he’ll respond and help for sure as the always do, I’m just trying to prime the pump myself and you never know. Thanks for responding
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Niall
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Hi all, I know this is in a way in the wrong section but people here may own or have owned a TR4 in the past of have the knowledge I seek so I have to ask .I recently bought and pulled a TR4 out of a barn where it has lain for almost 40 years. I have the commission number and plate and from that the Heritage Cert which gave me the info in the title above. Commission number is CT/37220-O, black on black car with a black surrey and wires. What I dont have is any other documentation for the car and the vendor I bought the car from doesnt know either what the reg number was, I havent been in touch with the DVLA yet but I'm told they cant match the commission (VIN) to a reg, like I say thats what I'm told rather than what I know although the correspondence I have been shown does seem to support that position. The car has been in the shed for almost 40 years, no MOTs, no tax, you get the picture.
I'm going to keep trying from the Commission Number end of the string but I'd like to put it out there and see if anyone remembers or maybe has a photo or has seen a photo of a 1964 black on black TR4 with a Surrey, originally sold in Croydon so that maybe I can pull the string from the opposite direction and see if anything comes out of that or coincides with another bit of info that emerges. I know its a long shot but I'd like to save this car and with its original registration if at all possible so no harm in asking, who knows, someone who owned that commission number 40 years + ago might pop up. The car is partially dismantled but in remarkably solid condition, definitley restorable and the colour combo sounds like it would be fantastic on that car. Any assistance much appreciated.
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Hi all, I know this is in a way in the wrong section but people here may own or have owned a TR4 in the past of have the knowledge I seek so I have to ask .I recently bought and pulled a TR4 out of a barn where it has lain for almost 40 years. I have the commission number and plate and from that the Heritage Cert which gave me the info in the title above. Commission number is CT/37220-O, black on black car with a black surrey and wires. What I dont have is any other documentation for the car and the vendor I bought the car from doesnt know either what the reg number was, I havent been in touch with the DVLA yet but I'm told they cant match the commission (VIN) to a reg, like I say thats what I'm told rather than what I know although the correspondence I have been shown does seem to support that position. The car has been in the shed for almost 40 years, no MOTs, no tax, you get the picture.
I'm going to keep trying from the Commission Number end of the string but I'd like to put it out there and see if anyone remembers or maybe has a photo or has seen a photo of a 1964 black on black TR4 with a Surrey, originally sold in Croydon so that maybe I can pull the string from the opposite direction and see if anything comes out of that or coincides with another bit of info that emerges. I know its a long shot but I'd like to save this car and with its original registration if at all possible so no harm in asking, who knows, someone who owned that commission number 40 years + ago might pop up. The car is partially dismantled but in remarkably solid condition, definitley restorable and the colour combo sounds like it would be fantastic on that car. Any assistance much appreciated.
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Hi all, I know this is in a way in the wrong section but people here may own or have owned a TR4 in the past of have the knowledge I seek so I have to ask
.I recently bought and pulled a TR4 out of a barn where it has lain for almost 40 years. I have the commission number and plate and from that the Heritage Cert which gave me the info in the title above. Commission number is CT/37220-O, black on black car with a black surrey and wires. What I dont have is any other documentation for the car and the vendor I bought the car from doesnt know either what the reg number was, I havent been in touch with the DVLA yet but I'm told they cant match the commission (VIN) to a reg, like I say thats what I'm told rather than what I know although the correspondence I have been shown does seem to support that position. The car has been in the shed for almost 40 years, no MOTs, no tax, you get the picture.
I'm going to keep trying from the Commission Number end of the string but I'd like to put it out there and see if anyone remembers or maybe has a photo or has seen a photo of a 1964 black on black TR4 with a Surrey, originally sold in Croydon so that maybe I can pull the string from the opposite direction and see if anything comes out of that or coincides with another bit of info that emerges. I know its a long shot but I'd like to save this car and with its original registration if at all possible so no harm in asking, who knows, someone who owned that commission number 40 years + ago might pop up. The car is partially dismantled but in remarkably solid condition, definitley restorable and the colour combo sounds like it would be fantastic on that car. Any assistance much appreciated.
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Hi all, I recently bought and pulled a TR4 out of a barn where it has lain for almost 40 years. I have the commission number and plate and from that the Heritage Cert which gave me the info in the title above. Commission number is CT/37220-O, black on black with a black surrey and wires. What I dont have is any other documentation for the car and the vendor I bought the car from doesnt know either what the reg number was, I havent been in touch with the DVLA yet but I'm told they cant match the commission (VIN) to a reg, like I say thats what I'm told rather than what I know although the correspondence I have been shown does seem to support that position.
I'm going to keep trying from the Commission Number end of the string but I'd like to put it out there and see if anyone remembers or maybe has a photo or has seen a photo of a 1964 black on black TR4 with a Surrey, originally sold in Croydon so that maybe I can pull the string from the opposite direction and see if anything comes out of that or coincides with another bit of info that emerges. I know its a long shot but I'd like to save this car and with its original registration if at all possible so no harm in asking, who knows, someone who owned that commission number 40 years + ago might pop up. The car is partially dismantled but in remarkably solid condition, definitley restorable and the colour combo sounds like it would be fantastic on that car. Any assistance much appreciated.
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Hi all, I recently bought and pulled a TR4 out of a barn where it has lain for almost 40 years. I have the commission number and plate and from that the Heritage Cert which gave me the info in the title above. Commission number is CT/37220-O, black on black with a black surrey and wires. What I dont have is any other documentation for the car and the vendor I bought the car from doesnt know either what the reg number was, I havent been in touch with the DVLA yet but I'm told they cant match the commission (VIN) to a reg, like I say thats what I'm told rather than what I know although the correspondence I have been shown does seem to support that position.
I'm going to keep trying from the Commission Number end of the string but I'd like to put it out there and see if anyone remembers or maybe has a photo or has seen a photo of a 1964 black on black TR4 with a Surrey, originally sold in Croydon so that maybe I can pull the string from the opposite direction and see if anything comes out of that or coincides with another bit oif info. I know its a long shot but I'd like to save this car and with its original registration if at all possible so no harm in asking
. The car is partially dismantled but in remarkably solid condition, definitley restorable without huge drama. Any assistance much appreciated.
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15 hours ago, Bfg said:
If TRier's deep sided cup remains, I guess it'll mean the springs won't come out easily ..when the semi-trailing arm is in place ? Whereas triangular gusset plates down either side of the spring don't effect its fitting or removal. Swinging the arm lower is prevented by the half-shafts coming down against the chassis, and the danger of their splines being pulled out too far.
Pete
Hi Pete, as I said I haven't tried the thing in anger yet but I would think with a spring compressor the springs will come out easily enough, but thats a speculation, I dont know yet. Personally I dont like the triangular gusset solution, I think it looks a bit ugly. In terms of allowed, well its not disallowed where I am certainly from a regulatory perspective. There's an interesting chat in there on that subject but this probably isnt the post for it.
Niall
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As promised here is some photos of the mock up with spring clamped in place to ensure clearance. Hope its clear.
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Hi Dave, I reinforced that front diff bridge. I had the same concerns as yourself, although I fabricated a new chassis I chose to retain the top part of that bridge and it was quite heavily pitted and I intend to have the facility to use telescopics so I had concerns about those two ends. I havent completed my restoration yet so I cant say how well the mods work but I'm confident they'll work well, in any case you can take anything useful from the photos or reject the concept as you see fit
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Personally I think 3mm might be bit excessive, these are in 2mm and its more than enough. I did mock up with the spring in place before I finished forming and fixing these in place, like I said not drop tested in anger yet but definitely enough clearance for the springs in static condition at any rate. I'll post some photos of the mocking up process in a min.
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It could be the injection system losing prime, as was pointed out leaky injectors but also ineffective NRVs will cause the system to lose prime downstream of the FMU and consequently require more cranking to prime again. With the exception of 5 & 6 they are just rubber discs in the output ports of the FMU, worth a look to check that the haven’t cut “seats” into the rubber discs.
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6 hours ago, harrytr5 said:
Thought I would show some of my efforts.I formed ply sheets to get the radius right when tin bashing the up stands.
Metal former made for flute work.
Yes I agree very therapeutic and satisfying
Regards Harry
Very nice work Harry, well done. If you’ve put that assembly back on I’d be interested to see how you approached getting it all nicely aligned.
Niall
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These are from a TR5/6 rather than a 3 but same principles of course. I didnt have to do any body work with my TR3A, mechanical works only, which I guess is why I'm driving it rather than working on it! These are the panels that brace the wheel tubs to the bulkhead, I made three as I've two rotten on my 5 and one on a 6, got better with each one as always. Used the fancy brake press here, might give you a laugh.
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8 hours ago, John Morrison said:
Lovely work there pal. I'm thinking we met at spares day last year?
truth is I find this bodywork stuff quite theraputic - guess we are similar?
Regards
John.
We did indeed John and you treated me well and gave me great encouragement. It is therapeutic, that said I’ve never made a buck as complex as that one you made for the front panel, I know how the process works but it’s a big undertaking. I’ll be at Stoneleigh this year again, be nice to meet up. Got some great parts there last year.
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John’s buck takes the biscuit I think but here’s a piece I made for my TR6 using a hand made hammer form die. Further to Iain’s point anyone wants a loan they’re more than welcome and fair warning the reproduction part is only £130, don’t know what that makes me, nuts I suppose, but it’s good practice for the pieces that can’t be bought.
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That’s lovely work John. Well done.
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7 hours ago, Lebro said:
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This shows how mixture can vary between cylinders fed from the same carb
Bob
Hi Rob, that's an interesting one. What did you find that down to?
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Hi Rob, I’ve recently overhauled the H6 SUs on my 3a and tuned it with a colour tune, very impressed with it. I tuned it initially according to the “instructions” on the overhaul kit from SU and admittedly in a hurry. It ran quite well, I had done a lot of work to it so went on a 500 mile shakedown, nice and responsive to drive, 23 mpg, not very impressed with that. Got a colortune kit and re tuned it, couple of videos attached here, one showing number 1 running too rich and the second one showing it pretty much right. After re tuning with colortune I went to Spain for 10 days, 1800 miles, full luggage, 2 up and roof down, I did two tests over th 1800, 35.5 and 35.7. The speedo is right.
So videos showing the colours aside, I found that the front carburettor was very fiddly to get right. It did not adjust as easily as the rear one, tended to max out the mixture screw and then with it maxed out be close to right but not perfect. I was loath to take the carb out and do a realignment but in the finish I had to, it took a couple of goes to get a nice linear smooth dropping of the piston on that carb, I almost gave up on the basis that something was wrong with it but luckily in the finish it came right. Then with the piston dropping nice and smooth the mixture adjustment worked properly, it required a bit of fiddling. The other thing that’s important is to use the two little spanner’s that SU give you or make one, you have to lock the adjustment base with a spanner when adjusting the back nut and it’s a bit awkward, if you don’t hold that outer hex whilst adjusting the backnut then it’s difficult to get repeatable results. I haven’t put an AFR analyser on this thing yet but I will at some point but the mpg and it’s performance in mountainy country would indicate it’s pretty much on the money.
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Great post everyone, thank you.
Looking for reg number of 1964 TR4, Black with Black interior, sold by Carrs Autos in Croydon Sept/Oct 1964.
in TRs Re-United
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Hi Paul, thanks for the input, I think I might be making headway with this. I’ll post an update when things are clear but I do have a number now albeit still a bit of a story with it! Good luck with yours, at least you do have a reg even if it’s not the one you want.