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Cheers Rob. Will take a look. Access looks extremely tight, like I have to get the PI plenum off at least if it's going to come out the top or exhaust off if it's going to come out the bottom?
Alex
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Hi All. Hi torque starter (type attached in photo). About 12 yr old.
Issue: just a click on key turn. Fully charged battery, tried another battery. Checked all earths, bypassed ignition switch with 12v from batt straight to signal spade on starter, still just a click, bypassed+ve battery strap, still same issue. After the click, if i hold the key on, draws a large amount of current. Car has been laid up after a very successful Italy trip in October. Never had this issue before. Tried to roll the car in 4th, moves freely can turn engine over. Tried to jog the pinion while firing it and rolling in 4th but still doesn't turn.
With all of the above, starter out next? Or have i forgotten anything?
Cheers
Alex
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Day 8: St Christophe to Maillat (near Geneve)
This was a fairly short drive of 2h planned to tee me up for the upcoming 2 x 4h legs back to Calais with a last night stop somewhere near Reims....although it wouldn't turn out that way....
The drive up to, and through, the tunnel are spectacular. All toll road but smooth and beautiful. Being a Monday late morning, there was no queue for the tunnel but the car was pretty asthmatic again on idle, dropping to a spluttery 300rpm at the tunnel entrance. The wide switchbacks down to Chamonix were a joy, and I held back for a good gap on the trucks to enjoy it. I don't think heel and toe comes easy in a TR6, but it was fun nonetheless. There were a dozen paragliders swooping high above the Aguille du Midi peaks (circa 3000m) and it was a magnificent sight. Cold, and blue sky. I dropped into Chamonix for a gander, had never been, but didn't stop for lack of parking and by this point I was sort of over eating out and the associated time and money that disappears with it. A quick roll from Carrefour, I just stood content by the car and soaked up the view where I took the following pictures. After a quick bite, I got back on the highway toward Geneve. I passed two gentlemen in a GB registered blower Bentley - finally I had met some other nutters! Made me smile! An hour down the road I came across le Lac de Nantua. It was so hot again in the car, fuel pump screaming, my Comte cheese stinking of rotting badger, I had to get out. A quick change in the layby and a I jumped head first into the milky blue water. It smelt like the cement aisle at Wickes but the water was warm and clean. What a delight, and diverse country France is. 10 minutes from here would be my night stop. Chateau de Maillat. The most lavish accommodation of my trip, but well worth the treat (normally my budget per night was about 50-60 Euro).
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Day 7 (of driving): Maranello to St Christophe (IT)
I had 3 options from Maranello to continue the journey home, all with pros and cons, different distances, and great views.
Option 1 - Head to Milan, Como and then up into Switzerland passed Lugano, onto Basel (this would have been the quickest and most direct route).
Option 2 - Head further south in the Alps via Turin, continue to T4 tunnel or over the pass to Briancon (Col de Montgenèvre). This is the longest option but would set me up better to ride the Galibier and Alpe D'Huez in one day (possibly!).
Option 3 - Head back up the Aosta valley toward Chamonix through the Mt Blanc tunnel. This would be similar to the outbound leg, and I enjoyed it, I had a good grasp of available accommodation and safe parking, so why change?
I went with Option 3 and stayed in a little village called St Christophe, which was an easy 4h drive from Maranello. I had some troubles on the hot days with the fuel pump whining after about 2h of steady state driving (even with a full head of fuel). This happened consistently on days over 25C, not on colder days. A coffee stop would quieten it but it would to come back. A job for the winter maybe, a small hole in the wheel box and some ducting to air cool the pump with a neat 3d printed scoop.
The next morning I cycled up the north side of the valley to a place called Lignan (1700m) for lunch, and unknown climb with zero traffic, but at 20km at 5%, with a few downhills to temper that gradient stat, it was a biggy! That evening I replaced the ignition switch finally in the car park with the most spectacular view. I did not fancy breaking down in the Mt Blanc tunnel! A quick road test later down to Aosta for a Pizza and a beer, and all was well again. The new switch had a noticeably more positive click between the contacts.
The plan tomorrow was to head back through the tunnel, and onwards for an hour or so before 2 more legs in france.
Mechanicals:
Slip ring to horn failed, now hard wired.
Speedo cable failed
Ignition switch replaced.
My lower back!
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Day 6 (of driving): Greve to Maranello
After feeling a bit rough and delicate after the excess of a Chianti wedding, I set sale for home. Tuscany was the mid-way mark. Underway, I thought i should stop at Maranello to see some Prancing Horse material. I visited the museum, which I'd rate a solid 5/10. Lots of static displays, but nothing too engaging. I cycled the hills off the Apennines to the west. I preferred this place to Tuscany - it was far less humid and hot, less traffic, no mosquitoes, better food and much less touristy. I got pulled by the Carabinieri outside the Ferarri museum for a routine check, they enjoyed the car, didn't know what it was, but let me park it next to them for my troubles. Saved me the fee, and felt pretty safe seeing as the bike and my particulars would be left with the car.
Some pictures attached.
Mechanicals:
Slip ring to horn failed, now hard wired.
Speedo cable failed
Ignition switch becoming worse!
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I am travelling alone. I don't mind it, freedom to make last minute plans and routes. The friend's wedding coincided with the trip, and may have had about 40% influence on me deciding to take the TR.
Regards
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Day 5: Aosta to Firenze.
Long, hot, and frantic drive out of the Alps through the crazy, narrow, fast, undulating, tunneling autostrada down passed Genova and onto Florence. Temp got to 38c in the cabin and I was grateful for the heatproofing and USB fans I had installed. Italian slip roads...not so much slip, more like floor it and hope. Was relieved to get to Tuscany, even after being eaten alive by mozis (Zanzare) as soon as I stepped out the car. I was pining after the French roads again but I had to get used to it. Unfortunately the horn stopped working when I needed it the most! Around 4 lanes of Florence in the rain. That night i ditched the car and cycled into Florence for dinner and a few drinks. I had made it, and would make the wedding.
Over the next three days the car was used as transport, a wedding shuttle, a vanity mirror for wedding guests, and all round trusty sidekick. Didn't miss a beat. Although the fuel economy took a serious hit but these are the roads it was made for with the 4.11 diff. On the topic of roads, the TR6 has a surprisingly capable platform as an off-roader. Some of the strade bianche would have been impassable even in a daily driver. The TRs narrow track and some impromptu road repairs to fix rain formed gullies made it all doable.
Mechanicals:
Horn button/wiring. Now running a wire direct to the relay to the cockpit on a switch to ground.
Rattles. Lots after the strade bianche.
Ignition switch becoming worse. Will have to fit spare.
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16 minutes ago, Charlie D said:
Hi,
3 or 4 times in the 70’s I drove the Aosta Valley at night at Christmas time in my 3A.
Like you say it is a magical area, but at Christmas, in the dark, with coloured Christmas lights shining up in the mountains, snow all around and the roof down….
Just out of this world.
I’d recommend anyone to try it and disagree.
Charlie.
Well, definitely a reason to do it again, Charlie!
Cheers
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Adding fuel to the fire (sorry couldn't resist), that looks like petrol with rubber dissolved in it. Probably from long storage with modern fuel. Dont drive it until sorted!
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10 minutes ago, stuart said:
You can use a Mini inline valve to sit in the line, this will cure it just make sure you fit it the right way round..
Stuart.
Thanks Stuart. I'm in Italy now and this is a great idea I'll try and find one. Im also after a 4 pin horn relay but surprisingly hard to find at the local garages! They don't keep much stock of anything!
Cheers
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Day 4: I liked Aosta so much i stayed another night. I rode the bike up to the ski station at Pila (1850m) which is a glorious climb of 17km at 7%. Lunch and a beer at the top. After a top up of 20w60 from a local garage, that afternoon I took the car up the Great St Bernard Pass which Aosta conveniently lies at the foot of. This ancient route connects Italy with Switzerland and tops out above 2400m. Would the TR6 make it? It was nice for once not to drive the car full of luggage and supplies, and it felt sprightly. There are scarily few lay-bys on this pass, so you have to press on. The car wouldn't idle and I stopped at 1900m to open the air screw. Apart from that she was superb. Probably the most memorable drive of my life and the most stunning place I've seen on earth. Don't know if it was emotional or not, could've been the altitude!
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Hi Z320, yes I am in Greve now actually.
Update:
Day 2: Reims to Bonneville, Haute Savoie, Alps (above)
Day 3: Bonneville To Aosta (IT).
A shorter drive this day through the Mt Blanc tunnel, 48 Euros lighter. I'd never heard of Aosta before, naively or not, but what a magical find. An alpine Italian village near Courmayeur just 45 mins from the Mt Blanc tunnel. A buzz to the place at night, italian (free?) parking, good food and better prices than the french alps. Cheaper E5 too. Happy days.
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Dear all, pretty sure if the servo or non return valve ticking. Happens a lot on overrun and high vacuum. Tried the extremes of the timing and its not pinking. Cheers
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Check boot floor, remove wheel and cardboard trim and inspect paint for bubbling and leaks.
Check E10 fuel hasn't eaten tank outlet pipe, to pump and or pre filter!
Check tank breather pipe is routed correctly, and return pipe that goes to top of tank.
Check underbody rear left aide for leaks around the p-clip location's. The pipes can crack here from vibration/fatigue.
If you'd had a leak in the past, sniff the spare tyre. The rubber will soak up petrol and can often stink for ages even though it may not look like you've had a leak. As others have said check sender gasket and that filler cap is making a good seal. Good luck and don't take any chances with this one.
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Will try retarding more. In the car park this morning rocking back and forth to find TDC as i don't have my timing light all fun and games. Also suspect my damper/timing marks are off!
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I'll try running with the choke half pulled out, but its hard to judge. Running sp98 e5 from the french, which i assume is similar to UK E5 super etc. Odd
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Leaving the champagne having had only one glass, it was a long cruise down to the Alps/Haute Savoie. A few thunderstorms en route, a few leaks from the roof, but the new wipers and rain-ex worked well with the Classic Car Led headlight upgrade. The next morning I finally got the bike off the rack to do one of the famous Cols of Le Tour, the Col de la Colombiere which is a 14km long climb averaging about 8%. A quick shower and check out then it was back on the road towards Mt Blanc. More to come.
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Hi all, easier to post a video than describe. I've got a tinkling/rattle sound on acceleration in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, sounds to be coming from the dash but could be and audible illusion! It is related to engine speed, and I don't think its pinking as it also happens a bit on overrun as you can hear in the video. The timing is about 13 deg adv, backing off doesn't improve it. Could be tacho cable? Also doesn't happen under no load/revving in neutral. Thanks all!
Alex
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Just thought I'd memorise this trip here if anyone is interested. After a solid 6 weeks of prep work and INVALUABLE help from this forum, I'm having a great time and not so many dramas on my way to Tuscany from the UK. More to follow..
Day 1: Crewe to Chalons en Champagne nr Reims. Drove through the night to get the 0650 (arrived early so took an earlier tunnel). Largely uneventful, splendid weather. Came off the autoroute but got quickly got back on! Car running well.
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Any guesses?
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Thanks all. Would've gone with TR of course but earlier this year had to very urgently insure my car online (on a Sunday) to move it out of a unit at short notice. Next year, thanks for reminding.
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Hi all, any recommendations for Europe breakdown cover incl France and Italy? Quoted by the AA, 160 quid for a week.
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If the plastic tabs broke off the rocker moulding, you can refurb like this... drill 1.8mm hole through the housing and rocker, elongate the beginning of coil spring slightly, and insert a small length of steel cable to act as the pivot. Fiddly work but worked for me!
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Hi Alan. Funny thing the servo is leaking and won't hold a static vac for more than a second. But the mu is still getting 14-15 inHg depression at idle when T pieced into it!
Servo is not that old, looks ok from the outside but the non return valve grommet does look a bit past it/loose. Pushed on it to make a better seal but doesn't help.
Ho hum.
Starter issues?
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Tried that Mike. Bypassed everything i could including the high power cable and the ignition cable (to my surprise with quite a clack on the spade connector! Didn't realise it would pull 40A for the solenoid!).
Looks like I'll next be stripping the unit to have a look. Best to come out the top or our the bottom we think?
As for high torque (low speed), I've been thinking about going back to original, would prefer high speed. Don't ask me why, just always thought the car cranks so slowly even with a hefty battery.