Deggers Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 Jack, from the YouTube channel Number 27, takes a TR5 for a spirited drive around the British countryside, and discusses why it might be widely held as the most desirable car in the Triumph range. Deggers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fremont Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 British iron in Italian clothing is becoming seen for what it is...finally! Still a bargain against their so-called peers with their light alloy engines and generally flimsy builds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trumpy Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Nice article , Not sure i agree with the heavy clunky gear change comments though , Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim T Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 ... or dipping the clutch when engaging overdrive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trumpy Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 I tend to when dropping out of od and decelerating just to smooth things and take strain off the unit but not otherwise. I guess the cars all drive a little differently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DenisMc Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 What an excellent video! Thanks for posting Deggers. As the owner of a 1968 TR5 I concur with most of the points made, particular the some what clunky gear change and the heaviness of the steering at low speed. I find that the overdrive engages and disengages smoothly. Regards, Denis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 16 hours ago, Trumpy said: I tend to when dropping out of od and decelerating just to smooth things and take strain off the unit but not otherwise. I guess the cars all drive a little differently. Not a good idea as your not matching engine speed to road speed that way, you should always engage and disengage overdrive with your foot down to match the required engine speed, youll find its a seamless change and your overdrive will last much longer. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mehere Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 These videos and films always raise my 'blood pressure', but maybe not for the reasons you may think. What is it with "telly/video/news people" ?, WHY do they insist on filming & talking whilst driving on public roads. In my opinion, this is blatant "driving without due care" and therefore ILLEGAL - their own "video evidence" should easily be enough for a possible prosecution. How can they pay proper due attention to the road and other road users while they are distracted in following the script and gesturing to camera(s)?. Furthermore, some of the cameras often block part of the view through the windows, an MOT failure, should they be on the way to one !.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deggers Posted January 24 Author Report Share Posted January 24 12 hours ago, mehere said: These videos and films always raise my 'blood pressure', but maybe not for the reasons you may think. What is it with "telly/video/news people" ?, WHY do they insist on filming & talking whilst driving on public roads. In my opinion, this is blatant "driving without due care" and therefore ILLEGAL - their own "video evidence" should easily be enough for a possible prosecution. How can they pay proper due attention to the road and other road users while they are distracted in following the script and gesturing to camera(s)?. Furthermore, some of the cameras often block part of the view through the windows, an MOT failure, should they be on the way to one !.. Blimey. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 13 hours ago, mehere said: These videos and films always raise my 'blood pressure', but maybe not for the reasons you may think. What is it with "telly/video/news people" ?, WHY do they insist on filming & talking whilst driving on public roads. In my opinion, this is blatant "driving without due care" and therefore ILLEGAL - their own "video evidence" should easily be enough for a possible prosecution. How can they pay proper due attention to the road and other road users while they are distracted in following the script and gesturing to camera(s)?. Furthermore, some of the cameras often block part of the view through the windows, an MOT failure, should they be on the way to one !.. Im afraid I have to agree with you re the filming while driving, US guys on sites like "Bring a trailer" when asked to post driving videos do just that obviously holding the phone up to film. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trumpy Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 On 1/22/2025 at 11:56 AM, stuart said: Not a good idea as your not matching engine speed to road speed that way, you should always engage and disengage overdrive with your foot down to match the required engine speed, youll find its a seamless change and your overdrive will last much longer. Stuart. I do match engine speed when engaging/disengaging the od . a slight lift of the throttle when engaging , and when disengaging a slight increase in throttle . I do clutch if i'm decelerating (as in approaching a t junction ) . But i take your point regarding od longevity and clutching is probably a good habit i should get into. . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 42 minutes ago, Trumpy said: I do match engine speed when engaging/disengaging the od . a slight lift of the throttle when engaging , and when disengaging a slight increase in throttle . I do clutch if i'm decelerating (as in approaching a t junction ) . But i take your point regarding od longevity and clutching is probably a good habit i should get into. . No lift of throttle at all is the correct way to engage or disengage overdrive and definitely no use of clutch, thats whole point of electrical operation is that there is no need for the use of the clutch at all. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trumpy Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 9 minutes ago, stuart said: No lift of throttle at all is the correct way to engage or disengage overdrive and definitely no use of clutch, thats whole point of electrical operation is that there is no need for the use of the clutch at all. Stuart. Sorry Stuart , I miss understood your reply , I thought you were advocating always using the clutch to engage/ disengage the od , but it’s the opposite. I guess the main thing is that it’s a smooth change , without any ‘snatching’ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 45 minutes ago, Trumpy said: Sorry Stuart , I miss understood your reply , I thought you were advocating always using the clutch to engage/ disengage the od , but it’s the opposite. I guess the main thing is that it’s a smooth change , without any ‘snatching’ Exactly my point, Ive seen so many overdrive boxes in pieces especially ones coming back from the US. Usually where theyve been disengaged on a trailing throttle and the subsequent shock through doesnt do them any good at all. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR4ffic Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 I agree that no one is going to hurry a gear change in a TR - up or down the 'box, but all gear changes can be achieved smoothly when engine revs are matched to road speed. A nice double de-clutch on the down change will always help - with optional blip on the throttle at the intermediate lift of the clutch if so inclined. Stuart and I have agreed previously on O/D operation ...always on the throttle - in and out, never out on the over-run Nick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trchris Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 The most desirable TR ? Is………the one you own and enjoy driving Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BRENDA1 Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 (edited) +1 Mike Redrose Group Edited January 26 by BRENDA1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fremont Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 On 1/26/2025 at 8:23 AM, TR4ffic said: I agree that no one is going to hurry a gear change in a TR - up or down the 'box, but all gear changes can be achieved smoothly when engine revs are matched to road speed. A nice double de-clutch on the down change will always help - with optional blip on the throttle at the intermediate lift of the clutch if so inclined. Stuart and I have agreed previously on O/D operation ...always on the throttle - in and out, never out on the over-run Nick One of the finest skills to acquire when driving a TR is to synchronize rpm when shifting in/out of overdrive. In is easily done by lifting off the throttle for an instant; out via throttle blip is trickier and I do miss occasionally but nailing that is the most satisfying part of overdrive use for me. I concede that shifting out that way is when I'm coasting down and usually below 2500 rpm - not under hard engine braking. Style can tend to be quirky especially if you've spent 5 decades driving a particular model, e.g. I rarely use the clutch to leave a gear, flicking into neutral upon release of the throttle and depressing the clutch pedal to enter the next one. Who does that? All in all, I subscribe to Sir Stirling Moss who's claimed to have quipped " Cars are like women. If you are gentle with them they respond. If you are extremely gentle with them they perform. " Works for me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave McDonald Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 16 hours ago, Tom Fremont said: All in all, I subscribe to Sir Stirling Moss who's claimed to have quipped " Cars are like women. If you are gentle with them they respond. If you are extremely gentle with them they perform. " Works for me I can’t imagine any of today’s GP drivers getting away with similar comments. Very non PC, they would be ostracised immediately. Dave McD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ntc Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 He is a YouTuber qualified not and just to inform you Jonny Smith aka the late brake show has just posted a video advertising a piece of junk Chinese car and got paid £5000 to do it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
multipletriumphsinner Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 The only overdrives I dip the clutch on (and that's only on the way down the box of course) are competition A types with the massive accumulator spring in. I regularly drive a handful of ex factory rally cars with them fitted ( a couple of World Cup PI's, and Roy Fidlers 67 RAC championship winning MKI PI). If you jump in one of them forgetting the violent overdrives fitted, and happen not to dip the clutch on the way down the box it'll rattle your teeth, and blur your vision! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRTOM2498PI Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 13 minutes ago, multipletriumphsinner said: The only overdrives I dip the clutch on (and that's only on the way down the box of course) are competition A types with the massive accumulator spring in. I regularly drive a handful of ex factory rally cars with them fitted ( a couple of World Cup PI's, and Roy Fidlers 67 RAC championship winning MKI PI). If you jump in one of them forgetting the violent overdrives fitted, and happen not to dip the clutch on the way down the box it'll rattle your teeth, and blur your vision! Hi Dave, I concur ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytr5 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 I just like the video for what it is and don't care about the other stuff! Regards Harry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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