harrytr5 Posted December 11, 2024 Report Share Posted December 11, 2024 Changed out to Braided fuel lines to a mates TR5 and he always complained it was harder to start when hot. Ten years later fitted the nylon pipes to his and hot starting problems cleared. Is it a mirth or fact, no idea but worked in this case and he is a happy bunny now. Regards Harry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mk2 Chopper Posted December 11, 2024 Report Share Posted December 11, 2024 Also, did I read in a recent TR Action, that if your earth cable breaks between the engine and gearbox, it could use the braided fuel line and cause it to heat up, possibly not a great idea when there is fuel inside it. Gareth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Morris Posted December 11, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2024 thanks all, Rimmers have cofirmed that the Goodridge hoses are incorrectly labelled and certainly hose 4 is 6 inches shorter than the standard nylon one. they are being a little arsey saying that they will have to investigate etc but effectively the wrong parts have been supplied. They have offered to swop them for the nylon ones but even the nylon ones are not the same size as the original taken off. I can get braided hoses made up locally for £120 all in but the hose is 1/4 inch which is slightly larger bore than the Goodridge.(I take on board all the negative comments etc but I have lost faith in the Rimmers supplied part) Would having a larger bore to the injectors make a difference to the fueling?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Hale Posted December 11, 2024 Report Share Posted December 11, 2024 Get them made by Neil Ferguson. He makes them to order and in a variety of colours. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john.r.davies Posted December 11, 2024 Report Share Posted December 11, 2024 4 hours ago, Mk2 Chopper said: Also, did I read in a recent TR Action, that if your earth cable breaks between the engine and gearbox, it could use the braided fuel line and cause it to heat up, possibly not a great idea when there is fuel inside it. Gareth Not the lines between Metering Unit and injectors - they are all connected to the engine, so same potential. Suppose the line between M/U and fuel supply - mine is 'Aeroquip' and the rigid pipe from the boot is copper. But more likely is the choke cable/wire, especially if the grommet in the bulkhead is lost. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Morris Posted December 11, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chris Hale said: Get them made by Neil Ferguson. He makes them to order and in a variety of colours. thanks any contact details please? Done lots of searches but can't find any? Some posts say he has gone to ground? Edited December 11, 2024 by Mike Morris Added info Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Hale Posted December 11, 2024 Report Share Posted December 11, 2024 He had a new hip fitted recently, he occasionally posts on here. i have sent you a pm with his phone no. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PodOne Posted December 11, 2024 Report Share Posted December 11, 2024 Hi Mike I'd forget braided and R........ and find a source of nylon/pvc pipe I'm sure someone will know where to get it from them pull/cutoff your old pipe and make yourself a new set not a hard job and you can have them any length you need. Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike C Posted December 11, 2024 Report Share Posted December 11, 2024 6 hours ago, Mike Morris said: thanks all, Rimmers have cofirmed that the Goodridge hoses are incorrectly labelled and certainly hose 4 is 6 inches shorter than the standard nylon one. they are being a little arsey saying that they will have to investigate etc but effectively the wrong parts have been supplied. They have offered to swop them for the nylon ones but even the nylon ones are not the same size as the original taken off. I can get braided hoses made up locally for £120 all in but the hose is 1/4 inch which is slightly larger bore than the Goodridge.(I take on board all the negative comments etc but I have lost faith in the Rimmers supplied part) Would having a larger bore to the injectors make a difference to the fueling?? Don't use larger bore hoses or you will be inviting all sorts of air lock and starting problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Morris Posted December 12, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2024 12 hours ago, Mike C said: Don't use larger bore hoses or you will be inviting all sorts of air lock and starting problems. Thank you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytr5 Posted December 12, 2024 Report Share Posted December 12, 2024 Follow the brown bible and it is not hard to do. Get the nylon piping from a trusted source and go for it. I have done it a number of times and works well. Have a go nothing to loose and make your pipes in the length that looks good as well as practical. Go on have a go! Regards Harry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR NIALL Posted December 12, 2024 Report Share Posted December 12, 2024 32 minutes ago, harrytr5 said: Follow the brown bible and it is not hard to do. Get the nylon piping from a trusted source and go for it. I have done it a number of times and works well. Have a go nothing to loose and make your pipes in the length that looks good as well as practical. Go on have a go! Regards Harry And he has plenty of old pipe to practise his skill with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve 286 Posted December 12, 2024 Report Share Posted December 12, 2024 Is it a pipe problem or is it leaking from the fittings where it meets the injectors if it’s leaking at the injectors fittings new pipes may not fix it i ended up fitting new injectors Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Morris Posted December 12, 2024 Report Share Posted December 12, 2024 On 12/11/2024 at 3:31 PM, Mike Morris said: thanks all, Rimmers have cofirmed that the Goodridge hoses are incorrectly labelled and certainly hose 4 is 6 inches shorter than the standard nylon one. they are being a little arsey saying that they will have to investigate etc but effectively the wrong parts have been supplied. They have offered to swop them for the nylon ones but even the nylon ones are not the same size as the original taken off. I can get braided hoses made up locally for £120 all in but the hose is 1/4 inch which is slightly larger bore than the Goodridge.(I take on board all the negative comments etc but I have lost faith in the Rimmers supplied part) Would having a larger bore to the injectors make a difference to the fueling?? Disappointing response from Rimmers… doesn’t inspire confidence does it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Morris Posted December 14, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2024 On 12/12/2024 at 2:07 PM, Steve 286 said: Is it a pipe problem or is it leaking from the fittings where it meets the injectors if it’s leaking at the injectors fittings new pipes may not fix it i ended up fitting new injectors leaking at fittings Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Morris Posted December 14, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2024 On 12/12/2024 at 6:16 PM, Steve Morris said: Disappointing response from Rimmers… doesn’t inspire confidence does it? no it doesnt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Morris Posted December 14, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2024 I went to Pirtek in Liverpool today and they just scratched their head. I have left one pipe with them to investigate etc but now getting disheartened and will end up buying a set from one of the main players. Has anyone any joy with replacing them and where from please? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve-B Posted December 14, 2024 Report Share Posted December 14, 2024 Just now, Mike Morris said: I went to Pirtek in Liverpool today and they just scratched their head. I have left one pipe with them to investigate etc but now getting disheartened and will end up buying a set from one of the main players. Has anyone any joy with replacing them and where from please? Hi Mike, that’s obviously very disappointing to have made a trio for nowt! I’ve never had them fail me but clearly they’ve failed you. So have you given the TR Shop in London a call, if not I would ? Personally I’ve Always had good results from them for things I’ve needed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevo_6 Posted December 14, 2024 Report Share Posted December 14, 2024 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mike Morris said: I went to Pirtek in Liverpool today and they just scratched their head. I have left one pipe with them to investigate etc but now getting disheartened and will end up buying a set from one of the main players. Has anyone any joy with replacing them and where from please? Hi Mike, I had my l pipes replaced by Prestige Injection but they’ve now been taken over by TR Trader. Maybe give them a call. https://www.trtrader.com/parts-lists/Lucas-MKII-Petrol-Injection.htm Edited December 14, 2024 by Kevo_6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve 286 Posted December 14, 2024 Report Share Posted December 14, 2024 (edited) Hello Mike I purchased a set of pipes from TRGB due to mine having a lot of rub marks on them and they were getting thin but A couple of years later I had one of my injectors playing up after blowing it out with the airline and reassembling it ran fine but I couldn’t stop it leaking on the union so ended up replacing the injector and it’s been fine since all I’m saying is by replacing the pipes it may not Cure the problem Edited December 14, 2024 by Steve 286 Wording Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PodOne Posted December 14, 2024 Report Share Posted December 14, 2024 Personally Rimmer's are the last resort for anything and I suspect Moss will go the same way now they are part of Rimmer's. Profit first customer service and quality parts last. Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny TR6 Posted December 15, 2024 Report Share Posted December 15, 2024 (edited) 17 hours ago, Mike Morris said: I went to Pirtek in Liverpool today and they just scratched their head. I have left one pipe with them to investigate etc but now getting disheartened and will end up buying a set from one of the main players. Has anyone any joy with replacing them and where from please? Did you deal with Tom (big Everton fan) or the older chap ? Tom is usually really good. I’ve had all sorts of lengths of pipe off him for various applications and a contribution to the Christmas fund goes down well rather than asking for a formal invoice etc. They supplied me with some nylon pipe for my fuel pump assembly, but don’t know what diameter the injector lines are - they may not have it. Another good source of expertise in the area is Montador Motors in Birkenhead. Stuart there is very experienced at Triumphs and built the odd EFI system etc. Maybe give him a call and have a chat and explain your issue. I’d have thought your best bet is to buy a length of hose and cut to size for each injector. You can then get Pirtek to fit the ends if you can’t do it yourself. They have all sorts of crimping gear if you wanted them crimping on. Found that Revington do a set with 4.8mm internal diameter Teflon pipe. See if Pirtek can supply that size (and forget the braiding) https://www.revingtontr.com/product/rtr4107/name/hose-set-injector-s-s-tr5-6 Also, have a read of this thread Edited December 15, 2024 by Jonny TR6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR NIALL Posted December 15, 2024 Report Share Posted December 15, 2024 TR Bitz in Warrington would be well able to supply a New Set. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny TR6 Posted December 15, 2024 Report Share Posted December 15, 2024 A bit more Googling and it seems there’s loads of 4.8mm ID PTFE pipe out there. 100% ethanol proof and burst pressure of 12,000 psi. Massively over spec’d for what you need. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike C Posted December 15, 2024 Report Share Posted December 15, 2024 Will PTFE pipe fit on to the Lucas fittings? I used to fit the nylon pipe by heating the ends in hot water, PTFE might be too rigid to easily fit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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