JohnC Posted December 6, 2024 Report Share Posted December 6, 2024 10 hours ago, TRTOM2498PI said: The TT1200 is a 6-2-1 configuration. What exhaust system was that coupled to ? Sorry, I should have said 6:2. When I got the car there was no Y piece nor cross-pipe, and they went onto two straight-through wheelbarrow silencers. A truly nasty sounding setup. The addition of a balance pipe fixed the sound but I honestly couldn’t say it made a difference to the performance. JC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRTOM2498PI Posted December 6, 2024 Report Share Posted December 6, 2024 16 hours ago, Steve Morris said: TLE? Tony Law Exhausts, in the UK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Morris Posted December 6, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2024 7 hours ago, TRTOM2498PI said: Tony Law Exhausts, in the UK. Aha - good to know - thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Morris Posted December 6, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2024 (edited) In the interests of broadening the discussion here’s another 6-3-1 manifold to throw into the mix - anyone got one? Listed on the Moss site and apparently made by Phoenix - looks to have slightly longer primaries than their other 6-3-1 offering. Edited December 6, 2024 by Steve Morris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Morris Posted December 6, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2024 It also seems to have nicely mitred joints. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Morris Posted December 6, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2024 (edited) Just realised Tom already flagged this… apologies Tom. Edited December 6, 2024 by Steve Morris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nigel Triumph Posted December 6, 2024 Report Share Posted December 6, 2024 I've been running a Phoenix 6-3-1 manifold on my TR6 for over 15 years. Subjectively it gives improved mid range performance and a pleasant exhaust note. It fitted fine and has proved to be robust over the years. Nigel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Morris Posted December 6, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2024 32 minutes ago, Nigel Triumph said: I've been running a Phoenix 6-3-1 manifold on my TR6 for over 15 years. Subjectively it gives improved mid range performance and a pleasant exhaust note. It fitted fine and has proved to be robust over the years. Nigel Great to hear Nigel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DRD Posted December 6, 2024 Report Share Posted December 6, 2024 I've got that as well, again it gives great torque. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR NIALL Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 Did this one get a mention it’s a Falcon unused and never fitted so I can’t comment on performance,BTW I'm running a Phoenix since the early 2000s and it was fit and forget without any problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unclepete Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 I've got a Bastuck 6-3-1 fitted. Gave me no issues fitting, no clearance issues and not clouted a speed bump so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nigel Triumph Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 46 minutes ago, unclepete said: I've got a Bastuck 6-3-1 fitted. Gave me no issues fitting, no clearance issues and not clouted a speed bump so far. That looks exactly the same as the Phoenix system on my 6, referred to a few posts back. Nigel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unclepete Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 3 minutes ago, Nigel Triumph said: That looks exactly the same as the Phoenix system on my 6, referred to a few posts back. Except for the manifold plate and a thicker gauge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Morris Posted December 9, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 Unclepete, could you elaborate on the thicker gauge please? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unclepete Posted December 10, 2024 Report Share Posted December 10, 2024 (edited) 13 hours ago, Steve Morris said: Unclepete, could you elaborate on the thicker gauge please? Same pipework configuration as a Phoenix. Thicker gauge stainless steel. Edited December 10, 2024 by unclepete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted December 10, 2024 Report Share Posted December 10, 2024 19 hours ago, TR NIALL said: Did this one get a mention it’s a Falcon unused and never fitted so I can’t comment on performance,BTW I'm running a Phoenix since the early 2000s and it was fit and forget without any problems. Good luck to anyone trying to fit that judging by the alignment of the mounting flanges. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR NIALL Posted December 10, 2024 Report Share Posted December 10, 2024 55 minutes ago, stuart said: Good luck to anyone trying to fit that judging by the alignment of the mounting flanges. Stuart. It comes as 2 parts and I’ve never really inspected it it came with one of those Bundles you pick up along the way Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Morris Posted December 10, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2024 2 hours ago, unclepete said: Same pipework configuration as a Phoenix. Thicker gauge stainless steel. Thanks Pete, I bought a sports system for my Spit’ from Rainer Bastuck back in the 90’s and it was top quality. Nice guy to deal with. Does he have a uk supplier anyone? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Morris Posted December 10, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2024 28 minutes ago, TR NIALL said: It comes as 2 parts and I’ve never really inspected it it came with one of those Bundles you pick up along the way Think it’s just the pic… Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted December 10, 2024 Report Share Posted December 10, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, Steve Morris said: Thanks Pete, I bought a sports system for my Spit’ from Rainer Bastuck back in the 90’s and it was top quality. Nice guy to deal with. Does he have a uk supplier anyone? I have test fitted a couple of exhaust systems and manifolds for their UK maker in the distant past on 4 cyl TR2/3. I have never fitted any of the 6 cyl items. https://www.ivormdavis.co.uk/Product.asp?Prd=TH604 Edited December 10, 2024 by BlueTR3A-5EKT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Morris Posted December 21, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2024 (edited) Manifold developments…. Having mulled this all over for a while with much kind input from fellow forumites I’ve gone for a Phoenix big bore cross box system and a 6-3-1 manifold. I found the stainless 6-3-1 on the SC Spares site at an excellent price - £362. Quite a saving on the other options. However, although the SC manifold was advertised as having a 57mm outlet, it actually measures very slightly under 54mm OD, 51mm ID, so it is clearly designed for 2” system and not the 2 1/4” big bore. As it was shipped from their parent company, Limora in Germany and has the same dimensions as the Bastuck system, I am wondering if they are made by the same manufacturer. It’s a bit disappointing as it seems to be a very well made piece of kit. I’ve alerted SC and they have agreed to take it back and amended their website accordingly. The manifold outlet is just too small to fit properly into the Phoenix system and although it is tempting to try and sleeve it to fit I feel like it would be a leak waiting to happen. So, before I execute plan B, if anyone has a 6-3-1 manifold with 57mm outlet they’d like to sell, let’s talk. Happy to post up pics of the SC unit for reference if it’s of interest to others and to round off the thread I might just compile a list of what’s currently available. Edited December 21, 2024 by Steve Morris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Morris Posted December 21, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2024 Pics of the SC manifold attached. Flanges are around 9.7mm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Steve Morris Posted January 2 Author Report Share Posted January 2 Chaps, the flanges on this manifold aren’t perfectly flat - both individual flanges are flat to themselves but laid on a flat surface there is 2-3mm of outward deflection (ie adjacent to cyl 3&4) Will 20ft/lbs of torque be enough to pull them up flush with the head? The flanges are just shy of 10mm thick. I asked SC to check their stock but apparently they are all like this to a degree. I do have the option of returning it if it won’t pull up so don’t have much to lose apart from a bit of time but if the consensus is that it’s too much I’ll move on I think. Happy new year all. Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unclepete Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 25 minutes ago, Steve Morris said: Chaps, the flanges on this manifold aren’t perfectly flat - both individual flanges are flat to themselves but laid on a flat surface there is 2-3mm of outward deflection (ie adjacent to cyl 3&4) Will 20ft/lbs of torque be enough to pull them up flush with the head? The flanges are just shy of 10mm thick. I asked SC to check their stock but apparently they are all like this to a degree. I do have the option of returning it if it won’t pull up so don’t have much to lose apart from a bit of time but if the consensus is that it’s too much I’ll move on I think. Should pull up Steve, however beware of stressing a weld! happy new year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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