BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted May 22, 2022 Report Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) Hi Pete, Here are view s of the steering box and a stator tube ( missing one spring lantern) The bearings, worm, peg and shaft look in excellent condition. I has your name on it now and is back up in the rafters with the NOS LHD steering worms. Note not bent. Edited May 22, 2022 by BlueTR3A-5EKT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pcwesthead Posted May 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2022 Many thanks Peter, my son will collect shortly. Just double checking, it is a RHD box isn’t it. Regards, Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted May 26, 2022 Report Share Posted May 26, 2022 (edited) Yes RHD Note rh helix on worm and drop arm lever pivot centre is to the right, outboard of the worm and shaft. If he comes next week do not come Wednesday 1st June, as it is Pinner Fair day and the roads are closed or choked. The Fair has been running for 600 years and is London’s oldest surviving street fair granted by royal charter. There is a way in and out but in truth you are best not to travel. Tell me when it will be. I have pm’d my details to you. Edited May 26, 2022 by BlueTR3A-5EKT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwifrog Posted May 27, 2022 Report Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) On 5/22/2022 at 6:37 PM, BlueTR3A-5EKT said: Hi Pete, is back up in the rafters with the NOS LHD steering worms. NOS LHD steering worms that sounds tempting, do you have any for sale Peter? cheers Alan Edited May 27, 2022 by Kiwifrog Spelling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted May 27, 2022 Report Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Kiwifrog said: NOS LHD steering worms that sounds tempting, do you have any for sale Peter? cheers Alan Will touch one and let you know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted May 28, 2022 Report Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, Kiwifrog said: NOS LHD steering worms that sounds tempting, do you have any for sale Peter? cheers Alan Yes Alan. I have two. They are new old stock and the business ends, top and bottom, have been in plastic bags covered with waxoyle for some years so the centre shaft bit has some surface rust; which I would wire brush off before selling. Both are long column type LHD. note LH helix on worm. One adjustable steering wheel type and one fixed steering wheel type. Remember these are 5 ft (1500mm) long so the UK post says NO! French post probably does too. I will be in Arles, Provence later in June if collection is possible. Price £275.00 each. Plus packing and carriage. Edited May 28, 2022 by BlueTR3A-5EKT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 Fitting notes for worms. Yes the worm is removable from the shaft and will fit both long and short columns. The worm is spline fitted to the shaft and held in place by belling or swaging the end of the shaft to retain the worm. This can be seen on the assembly. To get an old one off is easy as you only want the shaft intact. Heat up the end of the inner shaft swaged area to red to soften it and drive the worm off with a drift and an hammer. That is not the way to get a new worm off as the heat could upset the hardened worm and hitting with a drift may chip the surface. The trick is to drill out the swaging, which will allow the worm to slide off the splined end. The new inner shaft is now scrap as there is no metal left to bell or swage to retain the worm when refitted. Fitting a new worm. Clean up the end of the shaft with a file so the new worm will push on fully. Tap into place with a soft mallet to ensure it is fully seated. Clamp the shaft in a vice and use a conical punch to swage the inner shaft so it retains the worm. Be sure the stator tube still passes through ok. The last one I did I also used Loctite adhesive for ‘belt and braces’ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie D Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 Hello, I have a 3A that originally had a split steering column and I replaced it with the earlier non-split version (I was going from LHD to RHD and the non-split column was all that I could locate.) Yesterday I removed the column in order to replace the oil seal and ended up wishing I’d spent more time fitting it when I did the rebuild, a few years ago. I’ll explain the problems I had just in case it helps you. (Although there is a fair chance that you won’t have the same problems I had.) After removing all the nuts and bolts both under the dash and on the box itself there was no way that the box and column could come out. (I have a feeling that I must have somehow fitted the column before I fitted the body on the chassis, which seems impossible.) The main problem was that the column was trapped by the lower mounting bracket that is welded to the chassis for the clamping of the lower part of the split column and is not needed for the non-split column. As you have had a rack conversion the previous owner may well have cut this bracket off. If it is still there I’d recommend that you cut it off before you fit the non-split column. I’d be interested to hear the views from the experts on this. The only way for me to remove the column yesterday was to use a Dremel and cut the bracket off, working around the column. Not easy and time consuming. My problem may have been compounded by the fact that when I converted to RHD I had to cut the bulkhead holes myself and I think that if I’d cut the steering column hole a bit lower down I may have been able to extract the column with the lower bracket still in place. I may have then been able to “See-saw” the column to get the front part high enough to go over the very front chassis member.(I assume that your car already had the bulkhead hole in the right place, so that should not cause a problem.) As I say, you may find you can fit the column with no problem, but just be aware that you don’t need that lower chassis bracket if it seems in the way. (Peter W -- Please comment incase I am giving wrong advice !) Charlie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Charlie D said: Hello, I have a 3A that originally had a split steering column and I replaced it with the earlier non-split version (I was going from LHD to RHD and the non-split column was all that I could locate.) Yesterday I removed the column in order to replace the oil seal and ended up wishing I’d spent more time fitting it when I did the rebuild, a few years ago. I’ll explain the problems I had just in case it helps you. (Although there is a fair chance that you won’t have the same problems I had.) After removing all the nuts and bolts both under the dash and on the box itself there was no way that the box and column could come out. (I have a feeling that I must have somehow fitted the column before I fitted the body on the chassis, which seems impossible.) The main problem was that the column was trapped by the lower mounting bracket that is welded to the chassis for the clamping of the lower part of the split column and is not needed for the non-split column. As you have had a rack conversion the previous owner may well have cut this bracket off. If it is still there I’d recommend that you cut it off before you fit the non-split column. I’d be interested to hear the views from the experts on this. The only way for me to remove the column yesterday was to use a Dremel and cut the bracket off, working around the column. Not easy and time consuming. My problem may have been compounded by the fact that when I converted to RHD I had to cut the bulkhead holes myself and I think that if I’d cut the steering column hole a bit lower down I may have been able to extract the column with the lower bracket still in place. I may have then been able to “See-saw” the column to get the front part high enough to go over the very front chassis member.(I assume that your car already had the bulkhead hole in the right place, so that should not cause a problem.) As I say, you may find you can fit the column with no problem, but just be aware that you don’t need that lower chassis bracket if it seems in the way. (Peter W -- Please comment incase I am giving wrong advice !) Charlie. I have never attempted to fit or remove a solid long steering assy from a chassis deigned for split column. Removing a short box is a doddle compared to a long one. With hind sight when converting and rebuilding……cut the RHD long outer casing to match the LHD short casing. Rebuild the LHD inner short column with the RHD worm. More work but would have made life easier now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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