John Morrison Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 One for all you TR4A/5/250 and 6 folks. Have a group member on original type drive shafts, thats looking like it needs an outer U/J. Why can't we just undo the six nuts holding the hub onto the Trailing Arm, and slide half the shaft out from the splines? John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 Hi John, in theory it should be possible. However it is just as easy to undo the 4 bolts on the diff flange end. Not sure if the drive shaft splines have a 'master' spline but if it doesn't you need to ensure it goes back the way it came off. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HSM Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 That is the way i have always done it Harvey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HSM Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 The splines do have a master spline (wider than the rest) just undo the six nuts & slide the outer shaft out. Harvey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Collins Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 I have just done this to one of mine to grease the outer uj, don't forget to undo the retaining nut where the shaft slides. No master spline on mine, make sure the yokes are in line. Don't overtighten the six nuts on reassembly. Mike. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Morrison Posted April 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 Ah thought so, thanks guys. John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 Yes that works fine, dont forget only 16lb torque on the nuts when you put it back. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
super6al Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 From memory when I took my trailing arms off the 4 fixings on the diff end were difficult to access & tight/seized. I took the hub studs off & the shafts only went back on one way with a master spline. Alan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Salisbury Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 I think the master spline shafts are original StanPart items, the later repro types do not have this feature and you need to mark them for reassembly in their original positions. Cheers Rob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Morrison Posted April 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 OhI love this forum. John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PodOne Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 My 69 shafts had a master spline when I pulled them apart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ntc Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 31 minutes ago, PodOne said: My 69 shafts had a master spline when I pulled them apart. As it should be Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cp25616 Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 4/23/2022 at 9:17 PM, ntc said: As it should be Plus one from me NTC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 Hi Folks, perhaps I am being a little old fashioned but when it comes to taking things apart I prefer to remove the whole lump and check all of it in one go. Taking half the shaft out means some parts do not get a good look at. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Morrison Posted April 26, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 12 hours ago, RogerH said: Hi Folks, perhaps I am being a little old fashioned but when it comes to taking things apart I prefer to remove the whole lump and check all of it in one go. Taking half the shaft out means some parts do not get a good look at. Roger Agree Roger, We'll do the lot, but my question was just about simplyfying the disassembly/reassemby. When we did the first side, and removed all together, things like the handbrake cable stop, fouled the gaiter etc, and when it was all on the bench the thing slid apart anyway. John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Moltu Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 If you have the uprated coated drive shafts, they tend to have a larger inner UJ which may mean you can only get to the outer U/J by separating the two halves of the drive shaft. The originals will come out as a whole unit. The CV jpinted ones again assemble/dissasemble in two halves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, John Morrison said: Agree Roger, We'll do the lot, but my question was just about simplyfying the disassembly/reassemby. When we did the first side, and removed all together, things like the handbrake cable stop, fouled the gaiter etc, and when it was all on the bench the thing slid apart anyway. John. Hi John, that hand brake cable mount drove me mad.It wass the most annoying part of the job. In the end I elongated its attachment hole so that it broke through the edge of the TA. Now I only need to undo the nut 1/ 2 a turn and then slid it out of the way. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Conradski Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 What grease did you use for refitting the axle shafts into the stub shafts? I am almost out of my stock of Castrol MS3 high melting point grease and not sure what product has replaced it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 The black Molybdenumdisulphide (Mo2S) is the best suitable grease. It is the grey stuff. Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HSM Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 Or c/v joint grease. Harvey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 Hi Harvey, isn’t that the same? Cheers, Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kenrow Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 I went with synthetic c/v grease which is red Moly. You need to check compatibility of any two greases if you are not starting from fresh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HSM Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 Hi Waldi C/V joint grease is a lithium moly & black Cheers Harvey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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