Alan B Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 I have just acquired a surrey top frame from Honeybourne Mouldings. I believe someone makes the plates that fit on the top of the frame to take the H frame and the vinyl roof fixings. The top of the frame has no holes but there are marks where they should be. Can anyone help? thanks Alan Burwood Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted April 20, 2022 Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 Hi Alan, I make the 'L' shaped covers for the roof sticks. I also make the flanged cup that goes underneath to cover the head of the roof attachment bolts. I'll drop you a PM Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malbaby Posted April 20, 2022 Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 Pm'd you Alan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bobble Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 I am a bit puzzled by the use of PMs. Are the rest of us not trusted with these responses or is there a genuine reason for privacy (eg use of personal details). I understand the mention of the flanged cup (Roger) but am not too sure about the 'L' shaped covers - am I missing something? Sorry to be a pain. Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 Hi Bobbie, nothing too secret in my PM to Alan. Having mentioned that I make the bits I then sent Alan a PM with a little more info and the price of the parts. Nothing secret there also - The 'L' shaped plates are £15/pair and the flanged cups are £50/pair ( item #9 HERE ) Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ocheye Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 Hi Alan I hope you keep a photographic record and are able to share it with us. I am a little nervous about tackling a Honeybourne surrey top but would love to know how you get on and what challenges you have had to face. Good luck Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mark666 Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 What is the cost of honeyborne back light and a Surrey vinyl soft top Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 16 hours ago, Ocheye said: Hi Alan I hope you keep a photographic record and are able to share it with us. I am a little nervous about tackling a Honeybourne surrey top but would love to know how you get on and what challenges you have had to face. Good luck Andy Ive got one on my 4a and about to fit two more over the next few months, there is a fair lead time on them at the moment (about 6wks) I bought mine as a bare frame and an uncut window so I could replicate an original, took a bit of work but worth it as I find their original shape with the more bulky section around the window a bit clunky. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 11 hours ago, Mark666 said: What is the cost of honeyborne back light and a Surrey vinyl soft top You also need a Surrey frame and rear bar so it works out about £1200 depending on the soft section material plus fitting. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alan B Posted April 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 8 hours ago, stuart said: You also need a Surrey frame and rear bar so it works out about £1200 depending on the soft section material plus fitting. Stuart. The frame with plastic screen was £625 from Honeybourne. In addition I bought the vinyl roof and the fold up frame from TRGB for £120 and a front rail (as per the soft top) for £120 from ebay - I was pleased with this because it was Unipart labeled new stock. Tnere will be other minor fixings to come, so total so far £865. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 There is a 2nd hand signal red original surrey top for sale in Holland, including the metal and fabric top for 3000 euro. looks to be in good condition. No personal connection or interest.I somehow cannot post a link, so PM me if interested. Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boxofbits Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 If you look on page 27 of this month’s Traction (336) Revival Motorsport Fabrications have manufactured an exact replica of the original Stanpart backlight frame in cast aluminium. Bare frame = £1235.00 Complete kit inc glass/trim etc =£1650 All ex vat. Kevin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 16 hours ago, Alan B said: The frame with plastic screen was £625 from Honeybourne. In addition I bought the vinyl roof and the fold up frame from TRGB for £120 and a front rail (as per the soft top) for £120 from ebay - I was pleased with this because it was Unipart labeled new stock. Tnere will be other minor fixings to come, so total so far £865. I priced the above as new and also included delivery too which is £40 for the rear section. The rear screen prices are going to increase soon as well. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malbaby Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 12 hours ago, stuart said: I priced the above as new and also included delivery too which is £40 for the rear section. The rear screen prices are going to increase soon as well. Stuart. Stuart, I am currently on my second HB surrey top. Delivery cost to Australia is eye watering Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted April 24, 2022 Report Share Posted April 24, 2022 12 hours ago, Malbaby said: Stuart, I am currently on my second HB surrey top. Delivery cost to Australia is eye watering I bet Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nigel C Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 On 4/22/2022 at 9:59 AM, stuart said: Ive got one on my 4a and about to fit two more over the next few months, there is a fair lead time on them at the moment (about 6wks) I bought mine as a bare frame and an uncut window so I could replicate an original, took a bit of work but worth it as I find their original shape with the more bulky section around the window a bit clunky. Stuart. +1 on the section appearance Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PaulAnderson Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 Possibly some useful comment on this Posting Paul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR4Tony VC Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 Hi all Ive just had this made in aluminium and having invested in the tooling for all the bits I’m happy to get others made. Not a commercial thing, but a better alternative than trying to recover a beaten, rotten and battered original one as I’ve found out. The fit is as good (if not better than) the original alloy roof because it’s hand fettled to an original screen frame and backlight and it takes either the standard headlining bars or the single piece lining sold by MOSS. If anyone is interested I’m also looking at how the rear stainless strip can be made - I’ve tried in aluminium and brass and the result is ok but not perfect, so still trying to get it done in polished stainless. Much harder than getting the main roof panel made ! Regards Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malbaby Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 Tony...is that the original handbrake that you have, or modified? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bfg Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) That's a very nice lid Tony, and a credit to the craftsman who made it. As I'd need to ask .. I cannot afford one. And me being me, I'd only modify it anyway I would however be interested to know how far the screen is from the back-frame, or any other datum, ie. what is the 'correct' angle of the screen or centreline distance between the two. I ask because the windscreen on Katie has been moved (tilted back) when work was done on the car ..as is now evident in the front edge of the door glass on either side being at the wrong angle to the windscreen frame, whereas before they were not so very far out. And as I have a second-hand grp back screen that I'll be fitting (soon I hope) - it would be rather good to have the windscreen angle correct before I struggle with fitting either hard or soft surrey top. Cheers, Pete 10 hours ago, Malbaby said: Tony...is that the original handbrake that you have, or modified? As (I presume) this is an ex-works TR race car - 5VC ., fitted with roll-over bar and "currently being restored to its former glory".. I think you'll find the handbrake lever and position was brewed especially for the car and driver. The standard TR4 handbrake would have been in the footwell, and not on the tunnel. And this one has been fitted as low down beside the drivers seat as practical so as not to intrude so much into driver / navigator elbow space. I considered doing the same to my car. Edited April 30, 2022 by Bfg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 13 hours ago, Malbaby said: Tony...is that the original handbrake that you have, or modified? That will be a modified one for rallying. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR4Tony VC Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 8 hours ago, stuart said: That will be a modified one for rallying. Stuart. Yes, the fore runner of the arrangement that was in the TR4a. The later arrangement can be much better, so given a choice I’d use a modified twin cable set up and / or a hydraulic. Regards Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 13 hours ago, TR4Tony VC said: Yes, the fore runner of the arrangement that was in the TR4a. The later arrangement can be much better, so given a choice I’d use a modified twin cable set up and / or a hydraulic. Regards Tony Would hydraulic alone pass scrutineering? Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alan B Posted May 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 Hi RogerH, I have sent you a PM Alan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR4Tony VC Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 Hi Stuart As long as it has a locking device it will pass, but several have cable attachments specifically for this purpose to address any potential argument. Will pass an MOT irrespective as long as the handbrake can be locked on - not complicated on paper, but various practical issues in use. See what in BST82B next time - all bases covered. regards Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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