boxofbits Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 Hi All Just changing a wiper wheel box on my TR4a. There are quite a few out there, which may or may not emanate from the same source I don’t know? Does anyone have a recommendation please for a wheel box manufacturer or supplier who makes/ sells a decent, reliable copy? I think I can re-use the original Lucas spacers and washer assy. Regards Kevin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 Hi Kevin, ones that I have bought from the TR Shop have worked well and lasted. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boxofbits Posted January 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 Thanks Roger I’ve contacted them but they say the rack actually jumps out of the reproduction part (37H6316) on around a 40% ratio! They can’t tell me who the manufacturer is but I notice it’s Classic Gold on Moss. I’m sure I’ve seen a UK made part on an old thread that’s supposed to be better quality? Kevin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tim hunt Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 16 hours ago, RogerH said: Hi Kevin, ones that I have bought from the TR Shop have worked well and lasted. Roger +1 Kevin. But see my advice attached and picture. Tim Wiper Wheel Boxes.docx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RAHTR4 Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 Hi Kevin, You have a P.M. Regards, Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 According to Alan T who rebuilds the wiper motors these are a good repro https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222521442203?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Hubball Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 Try LAP Electrical products in Birmingham they have been mentioned on here before I believe they manufacture them not sure what their quality is like. Cheers Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harlequin Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 I removed the cable, turned the spindles 180°, turned the cable over and replaced it. The cable now runs on an unworn set ot teath so no slop plus not a lot of work and no cost George Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, harlequin said: I removed the cable, turned the spindles 180°, turned the cable over and replaced it. The cable now runs on an unworn set ot teath so no slop plus not a lot of work and no cost George That’s what the last owner thought 30 years ago when he first spun the orientation 180 deg Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boxofbits Posted January 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 Thanks for the collective wisdom and experience as always and recommendations from Roger, Tim, Stuart and Chris. They’re important installation notes you’ve written up there Tim to stop the rack jamming which are definitely worth following when fitting the reproduction. I’ve been offered an NOS Lucas set with rack so will probably go this route as I prefer to keep the car OEM if poss. Failing that I would have gone for one of the repro’s. I’m curious to know how many different manufacturers make these. The Moss one is definitely Classic Gold which I thought was Chinese though some, possibly Stuart’s suggestion seem to be U.K. made as some claim to be? Regards Kevin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boxofbits Posted January 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Motorsport Mickey said: That’s what the last owner thought 30 years ago when he first spun the orientation 180 deg Mick Richards On mine it was the splines which had worn resulting in the loss of a wiper arm in torrential rain! I suppose if the sweep is 120 degrees there might be 2 other positions the gear could be placed? Kevin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harlequin Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, boxofbits said: On mine it was the splines which had worn resulting in the loss of a wiper arm in torrential rain! I suppose if the sweep is 120 degrees there might be 2 other positions the gear could be placed? Kevin You don't know untill you try it G Quote Link to post Share on other sites
qkingston Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/27/2022 at 1:04 PM, stuart said: According to Alan T who rebuilds the wiper motors these are a good repro https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222521442203?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 Stuart. This where I got mine from, really well made David Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jean-Marie Raedts Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 In a previous tread I shared my experience about mounting the wiper wheel box in the car, which is not a straight forward job. Hopeful this tips can makes the job easier for you. Your concern: "Locating the rack tube into the wiper box is no joke thro the small opening 2" x 21/2 "!!! " What I did a couple of years ago was putting rubber bands around the both parts of the wiper box (see picture). It allows you to put in the rack tube and it will be kept there by the rubberband until you fix it by the screws. Afterwards, the rubber bands can be cut. Succes! Jean-Marie Wiperbox.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boxofbits Posted January 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) Thanks and having had a look at the reproduction which Stuart recommended they do look pretty good. Along with David’s advice having used them I’ve placed an order. I’ll follow Tim’s guide as he has experience setting up the reproduction. I’ve also got other parts to replace so hopefully it’ll keep the cost down. Kevin Edited January 29, 2022 by boxofbits Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Moltu Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 A delight of a job to do. Bought the replacement from Lincolnshire supplier. Put it together to discover the "cog" was spinning on the axle. So far the replacement has worked but limited wet use as had the engine out until the autumn. Not sure if they are all the same repro garbage, if I was unlucky or there are better ones out there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 16 hours ago, Andy Moltu said: A delight of a job to do. Bought the replacement from Lincolnshire supplier. Put it together to discover the "cog" was spinning on the axle. So far the replacement has worked but limited wet use as had the engine out until the autumn. Not sure if they are all the same repro garbage, if I was unlucky or there are better ones out there. There are, the one I quoted above is the best of the bunch. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Salisbury Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 +1 I've had a pair of these, recommended by Stuart, working for a while now, wipers are back to how I remember when the car was nearly new. Cheers Rob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tim hunt Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 1/27/2022 at 4:17 PM, boxofbits said: Thanks for the collective wisdom and experience as always and recommendations from Roger, Tim, Stuart and Chris. They’re important installation notes you’ve written up there Tim to stop the rack jamming which are definitely worth following when fitting the reproduction. I’ve been offered an NOS Lucas set with rack so will probably go this route as I prefer to keep the car OEM if poss. Failing that I would have gone for one of the repro’s. I’m curious to know how many different manufacturers make these. The Moss one is definitely Classic Gold which I thought was Chinese though some, possibly Stuart’s suggestion seem to be U.K. made as some claim to be? Regards Kevin Hi Kevin, I see that you had second thoughts and went for a pair of repro items, since they were recommended by Stuart I'm sure they will work out fine. I would be interested to know what you were quoted for the Lucas NOS parts. Back in June 2009 when I had my issue with repros the TR Shop quoted me - I hope you're sitting down - £205.85 including VAT at the then prevailing rate of 15% for a Lucas pair! They sourced the repro ones from Moss and frankly told me they were aware of the issue of iffy dimensional control that could lead to the problem I experienced. It is very disapppointing to read that this is still the case over 12 years later. Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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