JohnG Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 Well . . . . . . I'm thinking Australia means business. Whats so special about him. Its about time some of these people who believe that they are celebrities, were put in their place. Well done Australia. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 He has done nothing to help his cause. Nice one Oz. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Morrison Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 46 minutes ago, JohnG said: Well . . . . . . I'm thinking Australia means business. Whats so special about him. Its about time some of these people who believe that they are celebrities, were put in their place. Well done Australia. Of Course, man lied on his form what took so long, its a no brainer. John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ianc Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 I agree, Roger - nor have Boris and Andrew. Boris seems unable to hold up a mirror so as to see what almost all of us can see - thinks he can create smoke screens time after time. The Queen could do without all this s**t in her Jubilee Year, celebrating 70 tears of unstinting service. It must have been exceedingly difficult for her to take this very necessary action over her second (and reportedly favourite) son, but she has acted swiftly and decisively. Perhaps he should be offered a Grace and Favour apartment in the Tower of London? Ian Cornish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Hogan Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 At the ed of the day its only a TENNIS match! Why on earth do we pamper to these people? Well done Australia for throwing him out. Its just a shame they didn't do it right away. hoges. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 55 minutes ago, John Morrison said: Of Course, man lied on his form what took so long, its a no brainer. John. +1. Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barkerwilliams Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 If only celebrities weren't above the law, just so many cases or a dual legal systems around the world. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AndyR100 Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 He hasn’t been deported yet….. I suspect the legal profession will have made a few more $’s before the chapter formally closes. ……… Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 Its politicing. According ot Beeb 2% of the team-members attending the match have not been jabbed. And the sun is shining, which is likely more help re C-19. Oz invented "slip-slap-slop" and fingers will be pointed at the impact that has had on global health ....eventually. Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PodOne Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 Why a simple ball wacker deserved special privileges is beyond me. Their value to world prosperity is exactly what? Its a game. Well done Oz for getting its priorities in order. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 It's a game, but there's a lot of money involved, with sponsorships, ticket sales, TV rights, etc... Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 23 minutes ago, stillp said: It's a game, but there's a lot of money involved, with sponsorships, ticket sales, TV rights, etc... Pete ……..sounds F1amiliar…… Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 Yep! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 It has not been the same since they started wearing shorts. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, RogerH said: It has not been the same since they started wearing shorts. I thought they wear fireproof overalls? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Well, they've done the right thing and chucked Novax out of Oz. Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john.r.davies Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 The fat lady - or the thin tennis player - hasn't sung yet! There's a court case on Monday to appeal against the Minister's decision. And the judge in court is the same as the one who gave Jokeovich the decision over the Oz Border Patrol, in the earlier case. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Misfit Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 It appears giving Australia money after the fire got him no favour. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewMAshton Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Article from the Spectator, they have been consistent in complaining about the draconian measures to deal with covid but there appears to be no sympathy for Djokavic, the Chinese must be rubbing their hands together, plenty of fallout in the free world! The Australian government’s decision to cancel the world number one tennis player Novak Djokovic’s visa was inevitable in the end. Things started well for Djokovic. On Monday he won his initial match in the law courts when his QC-led legal team successfully challenged his visa cancellation as a breakdown of procedural fairness. After this utter humiliation, it seemed unlikely that Scott Morison’s embattled government would overturn the Federal Circuit Court judge’s ruling. But on Friday evening local time the umpire struck back. Australian immigration minister Alex Hawke used his personal discretion under the country’s migration law to cancel the Serbian’s visa, citing ‘health and good order grounds, on the basis that it was in the public interest to do so.’ What changed the government’s mind? They were first aided by the fact that Djokovic admitted to making untrue declarations on his immigration forms. It also emerged that he attended public events maskless and undistanced in Serbia when he knew he may have had Covid-19, and was interviewed by French journalists when he knew he had the virus. He also was reported to have broken Spain’s coronavirus rules by entering the country without the jab. All this became impossible to ignore. If he was cavalier about the risk of spreading Covid in Spain and Serbia he could do it in Australia too, giving minister Hawke justification to boot out the Open’s number one seed. And so he has. Had Hawke not acted, it would have sent a message that Australia’s border rules could be flouted at will, and that vaccination against Covid-19, which almost 95 per cent of the Australian population aged 12 and over has put up with for the common good, has been a waste of time and a great deal of money. If Djokovic truly wanted to take a stand, he shouldn’t have entered the Australian Open in the first place As for Djokovic, his high-powered legal team immediately raced to shift the action back from Melbourne Park to the courts of the city’s legal district, to prevent Djokovic being escorted to Tullamarine Airport. After a late-night hearing, Judge Kelly referred Djokovic’s unresolved appeal to the next tier of the Federal Court, stopping the authorities from deporting him – for now. There’s no question that Australia’s Covid border rules – both externally and between our states – are unnecessarily capricious, brutal and Kafkaesque in their complexity. This is particularly so given that Covid knows no borders and Omicron is well and truly here, currently infecting at least 65,000 Australians daily. Australian leaders’ ‘no jab, no job’ mentality is a brutal assault on personal freedoms, and especially hard to justify when staff absences and goods shortages due to Omicron are crippling the economy, forcing state governments to slash isolation periods for infected people and their close contacts. The Australian government’s failure to warn Djokovic of the consequences of his arriving in Australia unvaccinated, and the official bungling that allowed him to leave detention on Monday, is not the tennis player’s fault either. But he could simply have arrived in Australian double-vaccinated – or chosen not to come at all. Double vaccination was the preferred option of Tennis Australia, and almost all the top 100 players were willing to be jabbed in return for playing and competing for the lavish prize money on offer. Most popular Michael Simmons Sage scenarios vs actual: an update Instead, Djokovic presumed he was too big a beast to be handled. As top player and top seed he reckoned the Australian Open, its broadcasters and sponsors needed him more than he needed it, and that sport-mad Australia would open its doors to him despite his brazen rejection of the rules. Djokovic is entitled to his clearly sincere anti-vax beliefs. But if he truly wanted to take a stand on principle, he shouldn’t have entered the Australian Open and come to Australia in the first place. Indeed, by staying home and depriving the Open of its biggest drawcard, Djokovic would have struck a far more effective blow against Australia’s heavy-handed border rules and vaccine mandate policies, and the authoritarian tendences of its state governments which, to Morrison’s frustration and chagrin, have direct responsibility for Australia’s pandemic responses. But the lure of that record twenty-first Grand Slam title was too great for his ego to pass up. Elite sportsmen are supposed to be single-minded and self-focused. But Djokovic’s battle with Australia has taken this to an incendiary level. He has been, to put it mildly, completely reckless about the widespread collateral damage he has caused to his own reputation; to the sport that has been so generous to him; to his countrymen and supporters who defended him so fiercely; to the Australian Open organisers, especially tournament director Craig Tiley – whose reputation for high competence has been shredded by his bending over backwards to obtain a so-called medical exemption for his star player; to the global standing of the Open itself; and to the Australian government, whose bureaucratic incompetence and rigid enforcement of the rules is unfit for purpose. And he has taken advantage of the Australian people, whose warm and welcoming image has been badly tarnished. Ultimately, the whole fiasco may cost Scott Morrison his job at the general election expected in May, as the anger of the Australian public remains white-hot on the issue. Not because his government kicked Djokovic out; but because it admitted him in the first place. This sorry farce is a long way from being over. Terry Barnes is a Melbourne-based contributor to the Spectator and the Spectator Australia Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AndyR100 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Regardless of whether there is further legal action (and I’m sure there will be) Mr Djokovic is on a 13hr flight to Dubai…. I doubt he’d be able to apply for another visa, get it approved and get back back to Aus to participate In the tournament. ……. Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 I wonder if he'll be allowed to disembark in Dubai? Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Vaccination does prevent severity of C-19 in an individual but does not reduce spread between individuals. Governments inlcuding Oz are deluded into thinking that vaccines prevent omicron spreading, they do not. From alpha variant onwards the virus has been using its capsid proteins to defeat our innate immune defnces in all cells lining airways. Our innate defences are impaored by deficiency of D3. The Djokovic fiasso is based upon government misunderstanding of how the virus spreads. Pro tennis players are likely to have excellent D3 status and to not allowing the virus to amplify itself in their airways. I look forward to him suing the Oz govt. Super athletes employ medics who are tuned in to D3 due to its legality and known benefits to mood, muscle power, wound healing, respiraotry infections etc. If Djokovitz sues on that basis iit could benefit us all by bringing D3 for C-19 to centre stage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Can D3 cure a propensity to lie on immigration forms? Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Not sure their reasons are based around vaccs or non vaccs s spread. it’s testing pos and going to events after its not declaring countries visited before arriving in Oz. as anyone else would be subject too it’s their view that his non vaccs status could encourage non vaccs uptake in lesser informed individuals in a country he is visiting thus undermining a National message ( right or wrong) regardless of vit/hormoneD i wonder if the typical 3 year ban will be instigated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AndyR100 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 51 minutes ago, stillp said: I wonder if he'll be allowed to disembark in Dubai? Pete I understand that his original flight to Aus came from Dubai, the correct procedure would be for a deported passenger to be returned to the point of origin for whatever reception they have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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