ctC57212 Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 According to the original TR3 by Bill Piggott the hood and side screens should match the interior. My TR3a hertage certificate states that the car is signal red with a grey interior and a black hood. I have search the intrenet for a red car with a grey interior but there are no examples. My question is what colour should the side screens be, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Have you run a Factory trace from M.Ellis? These should tell you the Sidescreen colour. Certainly the Factory traces I have run (5 different cars) all show interior and sidescreen colour combinations. Iain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ralph Whitaker Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) I would expect the sidescreens to match the colour of the hood. For example, my ex USA car was British Racing Green, with a Red interior, and White Hood/Side curtains. This information was from the Standard Motor Club trace via Mike Ellis. Proves that not all hoods matched the interior colour as you suggest. I think as far as the factory was concerned the sidescreen were part of the hood ensemble, and unless someone knows differently, were usually supplied matching. Bit gaudy I thought and went for black interior and black hood and side screens. Ralph Edited December 30, 2021 by Ralph Whitaker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 I agree, sidescreens would normally be same colour as the hood, which was usually either black or white as far as I am aware. Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Lebro said: I agree, sidescreens would normally be same colour as the hood, which was usually either black or white as far as I am aware. Bob Not always as back then the factory would do any combination you wanted, my old TR2 had Blackberry trim/hood and sidescreens. A fairly famous "Nipple pink" TR3 had white hood and sidescreens/white interior and light blue carpets. See below a concours winning TR2 in its original colour combination as well as another in its original combo. Stuart. Edited December 30, 2021 by stuart Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Nice car - horrid colour !! Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Just now, Lebro said: Nice car - horrid colour !! Bob Yes it is an acquired taste Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ralph Whitaker Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Didn`t we have Lady Black to thank for some of those early colours. But again the hood and sidescreens matched whatever the colour. Ralph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 47 minutes ago, Ralph Whitaker said: Didn`t we have Lady Black to thank for some of those early colours. But again the hood and sidescreens matched whatever the colour. Ralph You still had the option of whatever colours you wanted with regard to any be it trim or car colour if you wanted to pay, the factory were happy to do all of that to make a sale. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ckeithjordan Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Attached is an old article from the Triumph Register America (TRA) newsletter showing paint and trim color options for the TR2s, TR3s and TR3As. It documents the changes by "Engineering Change" (EC) orders in chart form. Generally speaking the early cars TR2s, TR3s had greater options of colors and the weather gear tended to match or compliment the interior (except, perhaps, in the Geranium/Blackberry combination shown in Stuart's post) but as Stuart does say, the factory would provide pretty much any combination for a charge! TR Paint and Trim Colors.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ckeithjordan Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Here's a photo showing a red TR3A with a gray interior, whether the interior is an original shade or not, I can't say, but it shows the combination. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ctC57212 Posted December 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Hi Would the piping be in the body colour as in this car or would it normally be white? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 3 hours ago, ckeithjordan said: Attached is an old article from the Triumph Register America (TRA) newsletter showing paint and trim color options for the TR2s, TR3s and TR3As. It documents the changes by "Engineering Change" (EC) orders in chart form. Generally speaking the early cars TR2s, TR3s had greater options of colors and the weather gear tended to match or compliment the interior (except, perhaps, in the Geranium/Blackberry combination shown in Stuart's post) but as Stuart does say, the factory would provide pretty much any combination for a charge! TR Paint and Trim As always there are exceptions especially at change over points. My early works 3 a, built in early Nov 57, is Apple green, with fawn sidescreens and black with white piping interior. My car was destined to be a US export ( and a very plain spec) before being pulled from the line and rebuilt by Comps. A sister car built days later was Apple Green , with fawn sidescreens and a brown interior and brown piping All the other works cars built in Nov were Apple green with fawn sidescreens and black interior and white piping. According to the attached document Apple Green wasn’t available until April 58……….. Iain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ckeithjordan Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, iain said: According to the attached document Apple Green wasn’t available until April 58……….. I wonder if the work’s Apple Green was an experiment to see if the color would be popular enough to be offered? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Not sure, it had been a available in 1957 , the TRW team cars were all Apple Green, although a slightly different shade. Iain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timhum Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 My car is a 1960 TR3a, a US import, was originally red with grey interior and white hood and sidescreens. No sign-of or mention of any piping. It now has black hood and sidescreens with original colour interior and exterior. Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John McCormack Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 My long door TR2 is in its original colour combination of signal red, fawn weather equipment and brown leather interior. My short door TR2 is also in its original colour scheme of BRG, fawn weather equipment and red leather (the red has darkened over the decades, due for replacement). I like the various original colour combinations, adds very much to the character and individuality of the cars. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ralph Whitaker Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 Lots of different combinations, but the original question from ctC57212 was what colour should the side curtains be if it had a black hood, black to match the hood or grey to match the interior. Ralph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 Black to match the black soft top is my understanding. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ralph Whitaker Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, BlueTR3A-5EKT said: Black to match the black soft top is my understanding. My understanding and answer too, I suppose its possible, but I have yet to see a car with the hood a different colour to the sidecurtains, especially from the factory. ctC57212 had asked because the Heritage cert only mentioned the hood being black, and he had read that the curtains should match the interior, in his case grey. Ralph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 My first TR2 ( KVY92) had a black vinyl hood, one beige side screen and one red side screen. And a double duck tonneau. So not factory original then…… Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ralph Whitaker Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, BlueTR3A-5EKT said: My first TR2 ( KVY92) had a black vinyl hood, one beige side screen and one red side screen. And a double duck tonneau. So not factory original then…… Ah, an early Harlequin special. Neighbour used to have a Porsche where every panel was a different colour. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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