ntc Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) Well I will not watch it again IT Stinks Edited December 12, 2021 by ntc Spelling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SuzanneH Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 14 minutes ago, ntc said: Well I will not watch it again IT Skinks 14 minutes ago, ntc said: Well I will not watch it again IT Skinks Yep ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 They'll be devastated to hear that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevo_6 Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Agreed Neil, Liberty Media sold out F1. Manipulated media circus. Sad day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Appalling last minute and conflicting FIA decisions. simply wrong Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PGB BME Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Appalling by the stewards Masi should never officiate again Verstappen and Red Bull have no class, they were beaten on the day and they knew it, Red Bull & Verstappen should have accepted that and taken second place to show some sporting class.the fact they didn’t IMO means they are not worthy F1 champions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 34 minutes ago, Hamish said: Appalling last minute and conflicting FIA decisions. simply wrong +1 5 minutes ago, PGB BME said: Appalling by the stewards Masi should never officiate again +1 Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barkerwilliams Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 I believe Lewis won the race, and Max won the sprint lap. Box office over the rule book, sad if no rule is set in stone. Perhaps the race result needs to stand, but it not be counted towards the world championship, so we end with a joint victory. Alan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Total Farce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cvtrian Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Lewis beat Max of the line, Max dived at him and Lewis avoided a collision, (and I'm not sure about whether Lewis should have given up the lead) then fairly built an 11 second lead (and it could have been much more if he had known what was to transpire) before the safety car intervened, what ensued was a real mess, and contravenes the rules, never mind the racing spirit, of F1 not to mention the changing of the instructions enabling only some drivers to "unlap" themselves. Mercedes executed a race plan according to the rules of racing, Red Bull took their only chance and benefited by a ruling from Masi, credit due to them, but hardly earned on the track. Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim T Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Well, that was the first Grand Prix that I have ever watched. Just couldn’t understand how a driver leads a race for virtually the whole time and builds up a lead of 9 seconds approx and then loses that earned advantage due to a crash. Would the same thing have happened if Max V’s team partner had ‘crashed’ therefore giving his partner the same opportunity as this? Crazy! Won’t be watching again! Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john.r.davies Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) It hats worse. Mercedes, anticipating a dispute, brought along a barrister with them. And have lodged disputes about the F1 Regulations. So all has yet to be decided. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-mercedes-launch-protests-over-abu-dhabi-gp-result-after-safety-car.5oNwx2opecswnQ5S70O1cY.html I thought that the 'excuse' that marshals were still on track, dealing with the remains of the Williams crash, wasn't acceptable. Any back markers allowed to pass the pace car would still be under yellow flag conditions and could not proceed at race speed. So to forbid them to pass, and then do so at the last minute was odd. But Merc are only bleating because they feel entitled! Well done, Verstappen! His initial pass, just after the start, he gave back to Lewis without prompting. And Lewis walked away from him. He lost his lead, Tim, because he gambled on his undoubted ability to make tyres last longer, and lost the punt. John Edited December 12, 2021 by john.r.davies Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) In next years sprint I think I’ll use NOx injection it’s not allowed in the written regs but it seems that doesn’t matter anymore regardless of any appeals the result will stand and max is the new champion. roll on next year when the cars are different and new and we can see how the designers and teams interpret the regs. Edited December 12, 2021 by Hamish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brian -r Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 What a way to end the season, total fiasco. To lose the race under those circumstances is totally wrong and smacks to me of manipulation. You can't blame Verstappen he did his job, with the lead closed up under the safety car and max on fresher rubber race control must have had a pretty good idea of the final outcome. New champion more hype and more revenue. Brian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ntc Posted December 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 The result stands goodbye F1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harbottle Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) VIVA MAX as they say in Mexico. He did nothing wrong, his game plan worked out(but looked like it wouldn’t) Lewis’s did not. we all new there would be tears at bed time, we just didn’t know who’s. Paul Edited December 12, 2021 by Harbottle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ntc Posted December 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) I don’t know I guess some have no idea of Motorsport unfortunately this will make others that compete look at it different god forbid Edited December 12, 2021 by ntc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PGB BME Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 F1 will be tarnished as will Max’s championship by this result. everyone knows Lewis is the true champion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bluestone Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Have to feel sorry for Lewis...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 FIA have rejected Mercs appeals…..well they would wouldn’t they? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, ntc said: I don’t know I guess some have no idea of Motorsport unfortunately this will make others that compete look at it different god forbid That wasn't motorsport though. The result wasn't caused by the performance of the drivers, their cars, or the teams. Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Of course they’re going to reject an appeal against their own organisation. This is the problem with self regulating organisations. Rgds Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 It was clear that on the day the MB was the better car and it needed intervention by the stewards to change the result. Rgds Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ntc Posted December 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, stillp said: That wasn't motorsport though. The result wasn't caused by the performance of the drivers, their cars, or the teams. Pete It was not the blue book is now pointless Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brian -r Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 How long before the blue book is confined to the bin and the rules simplified. Rule 1. The Stewards will decide during the race the rules of the day. Competitors will just drive until stopped. Rule 2. The Stewards are always right. Rule 3. If the Stewards are wrong refer to rule 2. Rule 4. Make sure all crashes can be seen on the TV cameras. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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