Hamish Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 Like many of us I have followed BFG’s postings and he has set a question running in my mind about bolt use. I use this term “bolt” generically being the hex head long threaded part rather than the nut. they seem to be fully threaded or part threaded and part smooth. my question is is there a rule of thumb as to when each type is used? simple plain English guidance needed. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boxofbits Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Hamish said: Like many of us I have followed BFG’s postings and he has set a question running in my mind about bolt use. I use this term “bolt” generically being the hex head long threaded part rather than the nut. they seem to be fully threaded or part threaded and part smooth. my question is is there a rule of thumb as to when each type is used? simple plain English guidance needed. Thanks. As far as I know and I stand to be corrected a bolt, ie with a blank shoulder, will also act as a dowel of the exact dimension, whereas a threaded ‘ screw’ will not do this. Also the tensile strength is often higher on a bolt than a screw. Kevin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ransomes256 Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 As Kevin states the difference between a bolt and a screw (thread all the way) is the fit and ultimate strength. A bolt is always preferable as there is far less chance of fretting in the hole so eliminating damage to the components. It is however always essential to ensure the threaded portion is long enough to establish a full clamping force of the nut or tapped hole. Neil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 Hi Hamish, the head does not make it a bolt or a screw. We usually see a hex head on our bolts and screws but they could also have Bi-Hex, Pan heads etc etc. Also the size does not matter. A very small 8/40 UNF with plain shank is still a bolt and if it has threads all the way up it is a screw. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted November 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 Thanks so what governs which is used screw or bolt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drewmotty Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) Hard Line: Screws are a bodge. Use a bolt with the correct length of plain shank. There are applications where screws are preferable but not many. Reality: Screws are ok for lightly stressed applications or holding thin components where the shank of a bolt would be minimal. Using screws saves carrying stock of all the different shank lengths. Edited November 25, 2021 by Drewmotty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) I have search Civil Aircraft Inspection Procedures Part 1 in sect BL/2-3 onwards ( Roger will have his own set too no doubt) and only found a written comparison of screws and bolts which is quite woolly and refers only to a particular series of screws. see image. As stated above screws are for lightly stressed things bolts do a job of not only clamping but are resilient in sheer and or tension. This will vary with material the fastener is made from and it’s head design. Edited November 25, 2021 by BlueTR3A-5EKT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytr5 Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 The excellent Moss catalogs show what bolts and set screws are used in their pictorial diagrams and I tend to follow that. I change the rear lever arm set screw to 2" and nyloc the other side which now prevents the shocker from coming loose. Regards Harry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted November 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 Thanks for the input guys. learning all the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nobbysr Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 (edited) Typically thread to the head = Set screw. Part threaded shank is a bolt The rest of the information tend to refer to the head if not a straight forward hexagon. rgds Steve Edited December 18, 2021 by Nobbysr missed info Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnC Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 As for whether a screw or bolt is required, a bolt is far preferable (i.e., use one!) if it's mild steel. In this case the bolt will be in shear and you want the smooth shank to take the load (and to fill the hole). If the spec is for a high tensile bolt in a High Strength Friction Grip (HSFG) connection, then you *could* use a screw (but it goes against all sense to do so and introduce more potential fracture sites). In this case the load is taken by the friction in the two surfaces bring connected. The bolt/screw simply applies pressure to generate the friction. Better informed folk than I can guide on which connections in our cars are HSFG, but I suspect only those in the engine taking high loads (big ends, con rods, cylinder head, crankshaft). I'd only use a screw if I couldn't find a bolt to fit, or to join thin material. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 +1 Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
250 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 On 12/18/2021 at 5:22 PM, Nobbysr said: Typically thread to the head = Set screw. Part threaded shank is a bolt The rest of the information tend to refer to the head if not a straight forward hexagon. rgds Steve I agree full thread is also known as a set pin. Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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