Les Pettitt Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 Hi All, When my car was returned from restoration, instead of my lovely original crackle finish airbox it came with the one pictured below. When fitted, there appeared to be only one outlet so the pipe to the slow running valve was connected to the outlet normally used for the flame trap. Obviously there was no flame trap fitted. It was only when I removed the airbox that I found the front outlet had been moved to point vertically downwards. Does anyone know why this would have been done? Seems a faff to weld up the original outlet and create another one. Thanks Les Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steves_TR6 Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 Has it perhaps been enlarged from the original bore size?, some think this improves breathing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Les Pettitt Posted October 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 Hi Steve, Same size as normal. It is just the front outlet pipe to the slow running air valve that has been moved. Regards Les Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerrytr5 Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 Can't answer the question, but is it a trick of the light that it does not appear as if there are bellmouths inside? Jerry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Les Pettitt Posted October 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 Hi Jerry, I have just been to check and there are bellmouths inside. It appears in all respects to be a standard airbox except the front outlet has been moved. All very strange. Regards Les Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cp25616 Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) Have to say this is a new one on me as well, never come across this in 41 years of 6 cylinder ownership. However I don't think it will make one jot of difference whether the slow running air bleed valve is top or bottom, if there is a lot of oily fumes coming through the flame trap it might not be a good idea but realistically with a certain amount of "fresh air" coming in from that end that scenario should not come into play. It also looks like some poor alterations have been done in the same area evidently a cut and shut job to re-locate the slow running intake, very strange! If it was mine then I would be buying another airbox. Alan G Edited October 26, 2021 by cp25616 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 I would be going back to the restorers and asking where your original airbox is. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Les Pettitt Posted October 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 Hi Alan, I obtained a replacement airbox because I thought the one fitted only had one outlet and it was only when I removed it that I found the second outlet underneath. It has been so badly bodged I would probably have bought another one anyway. I would now like to restore the crackle finish to replicate as best I can how the airbox looked before the car went for restoration. Hi Stuart, Unfortunately, the restorer went into liquidation the week before my car was returned. It has not been possible to get back a number of my original parts and I am having a hard time determining exactly what has been done to my car. Regards Les Quote Link to post Share on other sites
openroad Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 Hi Les, i have been reading with interest, because as you know , we all know who the Restorer was, now banned from the Tr Register. Probably was just a bodge done by him, because thats a trademark of his ! Onwards and upwards Les. All the best, Conrad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 44 minutes ago, Les Pettitt said: . Hi Stuart, Unfortunately, the restorer went into liquidation the week before my car was returned. It has not been possible to get back a number of my original parts and I am having a hard time determining exactly what has been done to my car. Regards Les Ah sorry Les I didnt realise the situation and as Conrad has said an unsurprising bodge knowing who it was now. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CP26309 Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 That's a sad story, at least you got your car back! During the 1980's a friend arranged for my car to be stored in a barn...years later by chance I heard he had died and I only just managed to claim my car back in the nick of time. Phew! I once noticed that original parts on my early 1969 car had been replaced for no real reason when it was in a place that specialised in our cars, where I noticed they had other very early cars being worked on...Clearly my bits got swapped hoping I (wouldn't care) or notice and I didn't for quite some time! So I stopped using them! When the black crackle paint peeled off in places on my plenum I got it chromed...Not very original, but it added a bit of under bonnet bling that I missed from my previous TR4, which had chrome rocker covers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 Less, Some air boxes were fitted with only one small nozzle, I think they were for early TR5’s that did not have the idle air valve. Could your be one like that, but with a nozzle added? I happen to have one of these, as a redundant spare. Hope you will be sorted soon. Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cp25616 Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 Waldi all TR5's had the single nozzle air box located near the centre for the pipe from the flame trap. Later in the TR5's gestation if your TR5 was not running properly and you complained enough then your dealer could get an air bleed valve with tubing and a modified air filter box bracket to hopefully sort any idling problems. I stress that this was not a later standard TR5 fitment but only available from S/T if you and your dealer complained enough. Alan G Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 Thank you Alan, I did not know that. Cheers, Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Les Pettitt Posted October 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 Hi All, It looks like we will never why the airbox was altered or the intended application. If anyone can make use of it, I am happy to give it away free of charge if you can collect from Pershore. Thanks for all your thoughts. Regards Les Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mk2 Chopper Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, CP26309 said: That's a sad story, at least you got your car back! During the 1980's a friend arranged for my car to be stored in a barn...years later by chance I heard he had died and I only just managed to claim my car back in the nick of time. Phew! I once noticed that original parts on my early 1969 car had been replaced for no real reason when it was in a place that specialised in our cars, where I noticed they had other very early cars being worked on...Clearly my bits got swapped hoping I (wouldn't care) or notice and I didn't for quite some time! So I stopped using them! When the black crackle paint peeled off in places on my plenum I got it chromed...Not very original, but it added a bit of under bonnet bling that I missed from my previous TR4, which had chrome rocker covers. I thought a '69 would have had a chrome plenum, like the TR5? Unless I'm thinking of the rocker cover? Yes I think I am! Gareth Edited October 28, 2021 by Mk2 Chopper Correction Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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