Peter Cobbold Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 might be under remote control: https://theconversation.com/hgv-driver-shortage-remote-controlled-lorries-could-prevent-future-logistical-nightmares-167930 The Conversation is open to comments. Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobH Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 Who better to oversee delivery of this nightmare, than that well known technological powerhouse the Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport. Let us pray the thing gets no further than the present test track. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barkerwilliams Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 Now is the time to test autonomous lorries refuelling the filing stations. Alan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bluestone Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 This possibility was covered in the Economist magazine some time ago - a brave new world and all that. I must say the idea worries me, thanks mainly to Steven Spielberg's 1971 film 'Duel'. Who would want one of them lorries tailgating their TR ! Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
North London Mike Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 ''Who would want one of them lorries tailgating their TR !'' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harlequin Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 This concept has been around for a while using dedicated roads, its called a railway! George Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 hour ago, harlequin said: This concept has been around for a while using dedicated roads, its called a railway! George Interestingly, driverless railways are easy. It is just a matter of following the signals which could also be automated. Vehicles on roads are a different matter but may become reality before the railways. Power of the Unions and long may it continue. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 hour ago, RogerH said: Interestingly, driverless railways are easy. It is just a matter of following the signals which could also be automated. Vehicles on roads are a different matter but may become reality before the railways. Power of the Unions and long may it continue. Roger I can’t argue that unions aren’t a good thing but when they use their power to keep people in jobs that with modern technology are redundant, they are abusing that power. Rgds Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 14 hours ago, barkerwilliams said: Now is the time to test autonomous lorries refuelling the filing stations. Alan Or even direct pipeline connections to the distribution depots... Remember Buncefield? Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harlequin Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) This country is already criss crossed by a network òf underground fuel delivery systems, admittedly its a military only one that links every RAF base and probably bases for the army and navy also. We have one about a 1/2 mile from us and every day a helicopter flies along it checking all is well George Edited September 29, 2021 by harlequin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john.r.davies Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 A helicopter? Checking for fuel leaks? Are they looking for something like this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobH Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 More likely checking that no-one has tapped into it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter V W Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 19 hours ago, North London Mike said: ''Who would want one of them lorries tailgating their TR !'' Dislike, Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TorontoTim Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 On 9/29/2021 at 2:58 AM, harlequin said: This concept has been around for a while using dedicated roads, its called a railway! George This is actually where I think driverless cars have their sweet-spot. Don't try to replace cars, replace trains - do the vast majority of any given journey along defined, specifc routes and only deviate for the last few miles to go from the (ex)rail track to the specific destination. Surely far smarter and efficient than try to navigate human traffic... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 10 hours ago, TorontoTim said: This is actually where I think driverless cars have their sweet-spot. Don't try to replace cars, replace trains - do the vast majority of any given journey along defined, specifc routes and only deviate for the last few miles to go from the (ex)rail track to the specific destination. Surely far smarter and efficient than try to navigate human traffic... Welcome to Britain in the 1950`s before Dr Beeching when most did go by train.. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john.r.davies Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 It is bizarre that the thinking on electric HGVs is that the battery to payload ratio for heavy goods is very poor, so that it is trending towards overhead electric cables, effectively trolley busses. Or, as said above, road railways. Thinking about moving goods again by rail, instead of ever faster passenger transport, would be more valuable for the future. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, stuart said: Welcome to Britain in the 1950`s before Dr Beeching when most did go by train.. There wasn't much choice then though, very few private cars, and a lot fewer trucks. This is an interesting read - it suggests that road transport was already killing the railways long before Beeching. Pete Edit - forgot the link! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beeching_cuts Edited October 1, 2021 by stillp Forgot the link Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SuzanneH Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 3 hours ago, stuart said: Welcome to Britain in the 1950`s before Dr Beeching when most did go by train.. Stuart. Let’s go back to this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 minute ago, SuzanneH said: Let’s go back to this. There was a lot of commercial traffic on the canals, there still is a little. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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