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Ian Vincent Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 Nice one Andrew. The problem is, who do you vote for? The traditional socialist spendthrifts or the Tories who give it all to their mates? Why do we have such rubbish governments in this country? Rgds Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, Ian Vincent said: Why do we have such rubbish governments in this country? Rgds Ian Hi Ian, I think the problem is that all Gov'ts throughout the world are rubbish to the majority of the voters. There is no middle england party and those that come close have other agendas that make them unelectable. Labour of the 90's looked good but very quickly turned on middle england by destroying pensions etc. UKIP looked interesting but turned out to be crackers The Greens are a waste of space in my opinion. As are the Lib Dems The Tories have the opportunity to be great and good to all but have shown time and again they haven't a clue. What we need is a Social Engineering party - as we know that engineers are good at planning and being creative. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 All politicians have the same problem. They have to deal with the most insincere duplicitous selfish people on Gods earth …us. More jobs required, more support for care workers, more money for the NHS, more pay for workers under the poverty line, more pensions for the old and needy, more aged people to have full social care, more public spending for the armed forces, ( if you want peace prepare for war) more…more…more. All this can be done… all that needs to happen is for the public to pay the level of income tax that many other countries impose and for the attitudes of the public to sharing wealth more equitably to be accepted. Then of course the members of the public who won’t work need to be “encouraged” to adopt jobs and make a contribution to society. Fancy being a politician ? It’s about now that comments from the sideline say… ahh we’d be alright if Amazon, Google etc etc paid their full amount of tax. Which might help, but of course even the amounts any of these behomaths would pay would be dwarfed by the trillions needed. Also ditto the comments about governments “ feather bedding” of various ministers wife’s uncles brothers sister in various contracts and monies paid to them. Although such behaviour is disgraceful the amounts involved are in the nature of a “ rounding error” when compared to the gigantic overall investment needed. Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SuzanneH Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Motorsport Mickey said: All politicians have the same problem. They have to deal with the most insincere duplicitous selfish people on Gods earth …us. More jobs required, more support for care workers, more money for the NHS, more pay for workers under the poverty line, more pensions for the old and needy, more aged people to have full social care, more public spending for the armed forces, ( if you want peace prepare for war) more…more…more. All this can be done… all that needs to happen is for the public to pay the level of income tax that many other countries impose and for the attitudes of the public to sharing wealth more equitably to be accepted. Then of course the members of the public who won’t work need to be “encouraged” to adopt jobs and make a contribution to society. Fancy being a politician ? It’s about now that comments from the sideline say… ahh we’d be alright if Amazon, Google etc etc paid their full amount of tax. Which might help, but of course even the amounts any of these behomaths would pay would be dwarfed by the trillions needed. Also ditto the comments about governments “ feather bedding” of various ministers wife’s uncles brothers sister in various contracts and monies paid to them. Although such behaviour is disgraceful the amounts involved are in the nature of a “ rounding error” when compared to the gigantic overall investment needed. Mick Richards I totally agree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 12 hours ago, Motorsport Mickey said: All politicians have the same problem. They have to deal with the most insincere duplicitous selfish people on Gods earth …us. You speak for yourself Mick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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