BRENDA1 Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 Sounds good H . Mike redrose group Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Hamish said: It lives and has had its first outing on the road so TRE are satisfied and to get mileage on it before head tightening and proper set up. the engine is ace and I’m very pleased. it was a bl@@dy cold and damp outing so a big thank you to the whole team. I was worried about the unknown extras bill. You know the ones that appear once the car was apart. There were non. The only real “extra” was the radiator and expansion tank but I had expected that as I had done an epoxy glue repair during the season to a small weep and I had the opportunity to go for the later rad set up and the very neat TRE expansion tank that fits in the peddle blank hole. Together with knowns like new fuel pump etc. job done to the plan, spec, time frame and price. You really can’t ask for more . ( it was a lot easier for them and me that we sourced another TR3 engine to work on at their leisure and that convenience cost wasn’t a lot at all ) I just need it back so I can start to get the miles on it. I will be following their advice as to how/method. IMG_5997.MP4 I guess it is a visual angle thing, but the front trumpet looks like it’s almost touching the inner front wing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted December 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 1 hour ago, BlueTR3A-5EKT said: I guess it is a visual angle thing, but the front trumpet looks like it’s almost touching the inner front wing. There is sufficient distance. More than with the H6’s and longer inlet manifold (4a?) that have just come off i also have the harder engine mounts so minimal engine rock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deggers Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 On 12/15/2021 at 11:13 PM, BlueTR3A-5EKT said: Have read of this long (9 page?) article on MGA guru regarding velocity stacks. https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/power/pp104.htm Thanks for the link, Peter. An interesting read, and a lot of good research there. Deggers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted December 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 The car is home following its heart transplant. delivered this lunch time with all the old bits. I will have to decide if I keep the old championship class winning engine ? I have only taken it up a busy road and back but wow you can sure feel the difference. I think that I can see a Rev limiter on my Xmas list. I need some road time to get it properly run in. So looking like after Xmas. then it’ll be ready for the new season and new class. It’s a high quality build but it’s not an all singing and all dancing steel billet crank race wonder- it will easily settle into it new championship class. And clearly a well mannered road car. just as ordered. I can’t praise TR Enterprises enough. From the very outset they were open and honest in discussing specifications to get 160+ bhp and similar torque figures. They also built it to an agreed price that included swapping engines new carbs and other ancillaries like flywheel clutch dizzy etc i had made the decision to get a spare engine for them to work on ( that they also approved as suitable ) at their convenience during the season to allow me to carry on racing. It was very cheap thus a no brainier. after the racing season finished they had the car to do the swap and we changed some defective parts (leaking rad) and added some upgrades (spin on oil filter adapter etc) and as promised the car is back before xmas with miles on it by them and the head retightened so they know that crucial part of the running in has been done properly by the builder. They sent me pictures during the engine build - see the video at the beginning. And during the engine swap. after a cold trailer ride a couple pumps on the throttle and it sprang to life. With a lovely sound ( that’ll be my exhaust then !!) Tom and Simon are great (Apparently when Tom paints your engine it’s worth 10bhp) but they sure have some knowledgeable staff who are also happy to take time to explain things where owners want to know and with those who they know get there hands dirty on their own cars. thanks TRE and merry Christmas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 +1 for our TR specialists. We are lucky to have the number of specialist parts and services suppliers we have. Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brenda Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 Looks good, hope we get some good weather after Christmas( red plug leads on a black car) Mike Redrose group Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steves_TR6 Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 Now THAT’S a Christmas Present!, congratulations Hamish ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deggers Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 Very tidy, Hamish! Hats off to TR Enterprises, what a great team. Roll on the '22 championships! Deggers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwifrog Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 If it performs as good as it looks it will be another championship year for you Hamish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted December 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 Thanks guys. I’m really chuffed and can’t wait to get some miles under our belt. A useful period of sensible motoring to get to know it before learning the new characteristics in competition. but the five mins on the road does show how free revving it is and that a Rev limiter would be a good investment. and that it still retains great road manners. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 Is this what running it in carefully looks like? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted December 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, BlueTR3A-5EKT said: Is this what running it in carefully looks like? Ha ha No that comes under the description of “learning the new characteristics in competition.” Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Hamish said: Ha ha No that comes under the description of “learning the new characteristics in competition.” I trust you will be running with the rh headlamp removed to get more air to those big sucky things? I once created a pair of 7 “ head lamp buckets with 5 3/4” lamp units fitted . Cutting the back off the buckets got more air into the engine compartment and kept the car road legal. No idea if the modification was worth the effort. The set up looked weird so came off fairly sharpish. The idea was stolen from MK. 1 XJ6 fitted with air con. They had air intake grilles around the inner headlamps set into the chrome bezel. So a lot better finished. or buy one ready made. https://mossmotors.com/headlamp-air-intake Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted December 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 12/9/2021 at 10:26 PM, Lebro said: Looking forward to hearing how well it goes Bob. This is from the rolling road guys that TRE use my car has a video with a tuning run. The carbs need setting after all. https://m.facebook.com/APRACINGENGINES Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steves_TR6 Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 10 hours ago, Hamish said: This is from the rolling road guys that TRE use my car has a video with a tuning run. The carbs need setting after all. https://m.facebook.com/APRACINGENGINES Fantastic Hamish ! i’ve always wanted a car with twin or triple sidedraught webbers but never had one , yet ;-) steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted December 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 55 minutes ago, Steves_TR6 said: Fantastic Hamish ! i’ve always wanted a car with twin or triple sidedraught webbers but never had one , yet ;-) steve They appear to be a love em or hate em items my SU’ were ace and look the part. but this engine build really was a bucket list treat before I got EVEN older and my first pair of webers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roy53 Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/21/2021 at 9:04 PM, BlueTR3A-5EKT said: Is this what running it in carefully looks like? Please note 63 NOT 53 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 18 hours ago, Hamish said: This is from the rolling road guys that TRE use my car has a video with a tuning run. The carbs need setting after all. https://m.facebook.com/APRACINGENGINES Any numbers to get us envious? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted December 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 58 minutes ago, BlueTR3A-5EKT said: Any numbers to get us envious? Too early yet Peter. It’s only just set up with enough miles to tighten head. I was aiming to to get about 160 when talking to TRE. That would be about 170/Tonne which would be amazing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drewmotty Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 Mind you don’t get sucked into those monster carbs Hamish! What size chokes are you running? They certainly look massive compared with the 30mm chokes in my 40s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted December 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) It has these filters on now so I should be safe. I think they are 34’s underneath these filters. It was the trumpets that made them look like they’d drag you in if you got too close it’s a standard crank so the revs aren’t going to be extreme sticking with the 5k red line but it should have good torque instead, which should cut down on the gear changes I had to make. Holding 3rd gear on some tracks where I was over revving in 2nd. it’s a technical build to match what I needed on road and track. Most of my events are hills like Shelsely or short twisty tracks where I need the added torque, hence the 89mm. It’s not a Goodwood car with mega high revs, high speeds even through the curves Edited December 23, 2021 by Hamish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavidBee Posted December 24, 2021 Report Share Posted December 24, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 6:26 PM, Hamish said: It has these filters on now so I should be safe. I think they are 34’s underneath these filters. Hamish, the little I know, or think I know, is based on what I have read, yet what you say seems to confirm my impression (bearing in mind that I am genuinely ignorant, so they can be no more than only impressions). Namely, that Webers can be set up or "programmed" to suit different needs, such that there is no reason 45s should be fitted with 36mm chokes nor, for that matter, 48s. Even 48s can be set up with 34mm venturis, if you want to retain TR torque, as opposed to top end rpm and resulting greater speed. My question then is if you have the other figures for the Webers? Thanking you, Ciao, David Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted December 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2021 Hi David. it may be remiss if me but no I haven’t looked inside the carbs. the butterfly wing nuts on the “lids” are wired up. and to be honest I don’t know carbs enough to start messing with them and I know that I couldn’t do better than this initial set up on the rolling road. my plan will be to get some miles under my belt learning the new characteristics of the car and get it bedded in. Then another rolling road session before the season opener. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ntc Posted December 24, 2021 Report Share Posted December 24, 2021 Weight and corners is how to win try taking on a go kart I challenge those in the sprint to prove me wrong Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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