trchris Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 Hi all 5 owners At present I'm running a good 4a which I've spent a bit on to get it to its present condition however Ive been offered a genuine uk 5. Its tatty/untidy, very sound, paintwork ok small amount of rust top of rear wing, roadworthy and has just had an mot and runs sweet. Not been under to view chassis etc obviously you guys haven't seen the real thing but what's the consensus of value? and has the ceiling been met for these now? Thanks for any views Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 Tell us how much they want and we will tell you if its vaguely worth it Pictures help a lot too Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trchris Posted August 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 Hi Stuart Have a look at TRGB green tr5 Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, trchris said: Hi Stuart Have a look at TRGB green tr5 Chris Interestingly your description doesnt match theirs make them an offer based on a really good MK1 eyeball including a very good look underneath. Caveat Emptor. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ntc Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, stuart said: Interestingly your description doesnt match theirs make them an offer based on a really good MK1 eyeball including a very good look underneath. Caveat Emptor. Stuart. Agree and they will have a ramp never take somebody’s opinion on it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ2014 Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 Out of interest is there anyone in the register who can provide a used car inspection service (with report) for buyers of TR’s? It’s certainly a minefield out there! Ade Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bfg Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, AJ2014 said: Out of interest is there anyone in the register who can provide a used car inspection service (with report) for buyers of TR’s? It’s certainly a minefield out there! Ade For what it's worth I used Brian Page of Classic Assessments (advertised in the TR Action), and who also advertises in the JEC magazine. I contracted him to look at a '66 Jaguar IRS saloon ..way down in Devon (I'm over in Anglia), and although first impressions of receiving his report seemed favourable ..there was actually a very little substance to it. Much of it was clearly pages of non-specific blurb. No compression test was done, nor any other test, and the car wasn't even jacked up. I understand there are limits to what an inspection can do, without the owner's permission, but the seller wasn't asked. I'm told the assessment took just half an hour from his arriving at the door to driving away, including a short test drive. His report warned of a worn half shaft clonking or possibly a shot wheel bearing ..whereas the rear wheel was loose. He missed the fact the the gearbox was non-standard (from a XJ6), was incorrectly mounted, and generally shot (noisy even through ample insualtion and the Wilton carpets). It cost me £2500 to having it and the OD rebuilt. In addition the cooling systems was furred up and inadequate, a core plug was leaking, the PAS was leaking in two places, and sections of the under-bonnet wiring needed replacing. The carpets were being moth eaten (..the little critters were still resident), and the leather seats so hard that it took two large pots of leather feed to revitalize them enough to use without the fear of the leather cracking. I may just have been unlucky, and caught him on a bad or otherwise very busy day. But next time I'll have prospective car checked by the A.A. and the car put in for a new MOT. If those check out then I'll take a few days to go down to stay in a B&B ..which would then give me the time to properly look at the car myself. I would also ask the club if there were any enthusiast in the area, well acquainted with that particular model of car ..who might come along to share his, or her, valued opinion. I ought to have done that when I bought the TR., but I was stupid ..and has it has cost me.! Pete. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ntc Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, Bfg said: For what it's worth I used Brian Page of Classic Assessments (advertised in the TR Action), and who also advertises in the JEC magazine. I contracted him to look at a '66 Jaguar IRS saloon ..way down in Devon (I'm over in Anglia), and although first impressions of receiving his report seemed favourable ..there was actually a very little substance to it. Much of it was clearly pages of non-specific blurb. No compression test was done, nor any other test, and the car wasn't even jacked up. I understand there are limits to what an inspection can do, without the owner's permission, but the seller wasn't asked. I'm told the assessment took just half an hour from his arriving at the door to driving away, including a short test drive. His report warned of a worn half shaft clonking or possibly a shot wheel bearing ..whereas the rear wheel was loose. He missed the fact the the gearbox was non-standard (from a XJ6), was incorrectly mounted, and generally shot (noisy even through ample insualtion and the Wilton carpets). It cost me £2500 to having it and the OD rebuilt. In addition the cooling systems was furred up and inadequate, a core plug was leaking, the PAS was leaking in two places, and sections of the under-bonnet wiring needed replacing. The carpets were being moth eaten (..the little critters were still resident), and the leather seats so hard that it took two large pots of leather feed to revitalize them enough to use without the fear of the leather cracking. I may just have been unlucky, and caught him on a bad or otherwise very busy day. But next time I'll have prospective car checked by the A.A. and the car put in for a new MOT. If those check out then I'll take a few days to go down to stay in a B&B ..which would then give me the time to properly look at the car myself. I would also ask the club if there were any enthusiast in the area, well acquainted with that particular model of car ..who might come along to share his, or her, valued opinion. I ought to have done that when I bought the TR., but I was stupid ..and has it has cost me.! Pete. Waste of time and money just take somebody who knows a Tr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavidBee Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, ntc said: Waste of time and money just take somebody who knows a Tr I took myself, having owned a TR2 way back when. I did seriously consider engaging a specialist valuer known to the Register. Checked his site, but came to the same conclusion as Pete. That I would be wasting money on a generic report that would only cover obvious points. I would have had to send in a brief, with a list of requirements. But I didn't have the time to devote to writing up a thorough one. I went myself, travelling from Ireland to Britain and back the same day. Apart from a test drive, I inspected the car on a ramp with a torch. The classic car brokers were happy to make the changes I requested, such as replacing 185 Yokohama tyres. From my own research, I knew these had to be at least 10 years old, and most probably twice as old. Although the price didn't budge, I requestied and had fitted a new set of tyres, 175 Bridgestone Allweathers, new brake hoses and water hoses, and several other things too. If you are on your own, though, you will miss things. And I did. I forgot to check the spare wheel (it turned out to be a Michelin ZX, so at least dating from 1975) and failed to do more than note the microbubbles on one of the front wings. I was also ill that day — high blood pressure that I was unaware of. Even so, I am still not sure an extra set of eyes would have spotted much more. Perhaps I was fortunate. There really wasn't much else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DenisMc Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) Hi Chris, When I bought my TR5 in August 2019 I used the 2019 Octane Classic Car Price Guide 1945-2000. This was recommended by the owner of our village garage, who has an impressive classic car collection. For the TR5 it gives the following. I have added their price definitions. Excellent: £50,000. The value of a car in excellent all-round condition, where there is unlikely to be any expenditure required. Original factory fresh condition, or a high standard restoration, but not necessarily concours. NOTE: Concours-condition cars, or those with specific historic significance, may be worth considerably more. Good: £40,000. Sound, useable and presentable cars that you would be happy to drive on a regular basis. Not perfect and may need some cosmetic or minor mechanical work, but an example representative of the breed, and one you would be happy to display at an owner's club meeting. Average: £32,000. Running cars, but ones with plenty of issues that need sorting. Most will have MOTs but might need work to get through the next one . Project: £18,000. Often cars that have been unused for a long period of time , generally those needing substantial work to get back on the road or through the next MOT. I also used Brian Page to inspect the car that I bought. Earlier on in my search he also looked at a different TR5 that on the basis of his report I decided not to proceed with. I tend to agree that his reports are a little bit generic but in both cases he called me shortly after viewing the cars and gave me detailed verbal feedback. This was much more useful and I was able to ask questions in real time. For the car I bought he noticed that the passenger side door check strap bracket had torn through, which I had missed. I was able to quickly get some quotes to have this repaired and the vendor duly knocked £800 off the price. This has now been repaired to a high standard. Also, he heard a strange noise from the water pump. The vendor had this changed by a TR specialist before I collected the car. So, I was pleased with Brian but accept if you could get someone with Stuart's knowledge and experience to view the car that would be even better! Regards, Denis Edited September 10, 2021 by DenisMc Typo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ2014 Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 Chris For reference. Practical Classics Price Guide Sept 2021…… Cheers Ade Practical Classics Price List - September 2021.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Flinn Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 Now sold, did you buy it Chris? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trchris Posted September 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 No it wasn't me, although a solid car too much too spend to bring it back to very good my pockets aren't that deep especially after doing my 4a !! Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marko Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 On 8/21/2021 at 6:41 PM, AJ2014 said: Out of interest is there anyone in the register who can provide a used car inspection service (with report) for buyers of TR’s? It’s certainly a minefield out there! Ade Ade, Although I don't advertise the fact, I have done a number of paid inspections for TR Register (potential) members. Inspection Price is obviously dependent on how deep you want to go with the inspection and how far away the car is in miles - Just my experience over the years of purchasing, retailing and trading TR's, Like Neil said or take someone with you that knows the marque intimately!! Cheers Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ2014 Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 3 hours ago, marko said: Ade, Although I don't advertise the fact, I have done a number of paid inspections for TR Register (potential) members. Inspection Price is obviously dependent on how deep you want to go with the inspection and how far away the car is in miles - Just my experience over the years of purchasing, retailing and trading TR's, Like Neil said or take someone with you that knows the marque intimately!! Cheers Mark Hi Mark, Thanks for your reply. I do follow you on Instagram and I’ve seen a lot of the great examples of TR’s etc you buy and sell. I will certainly bear you in mind when I’m looking for my next TR. We have met previously when I bought a TR3 overdrive gearbox from you off the forum and collected it from your home. A pleasure to deal with. Cheers Ade Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lee Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 My young Son bought this car. Collected it today and it sailed the 100 miles back home including traffic. He bought it with eyes wide open. he likes it because it’s an honest and usable example which he will bowl around in without a care. TRGB had just completely refurbished the injection system inc new tank, pumps, lines etc. Brand new brakes front and rear inc lines and calipers etc. Fresh oil, hoses and so on. He feels he got a good deal on it in the end after a bit of bartering. Trouble is they’re very rarely seen for sale at a decent price, lots have been restored and are circa 50k and then you really don’t have any idea how good a resto was carried out. Id rather buy a car with warts, that way you know what you have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lee Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 Here he is in London Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AndyR100 Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 10 hours ago, lee said: Here he is in London Excellent! Tremendous to see it being used and enjoyed - exactly as Mr Triumph intended ......... Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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