RogerH Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 Hi Folks, this is a serious bit of kit. Jones&Shipman are top notch British manufacturers of workshop tooling. this tilting/swivel vice is in perfect condition, years of grime but superficial. It is here on Ebay Here Typical price on the bay is aprx £350 Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boxofbits Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 That’s a nice vice Roger. My vice will swivel in a horizontal plane but not vertically, and can be TRicky when needing to turn something up at an angle to cut/ grind etc. I currently use bodywork clamps gripped in the vice to achieve an angle on a workpiece. Kevin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 Yum yum. All I need to go with it is a milling machine of suitable size. Peter W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted March 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 hour ago, BlueTR3A-5EKT said: Yum yum. All I need to go with it is a milling machine of suitable size. Peter W Buy the vice now and then save up for the milling machine. You can invite all your friends to sit around and look at it - heaven Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 33 minutes ago, RogerH said: Buy the vice now and then save up for the milling machine. You can invite all your friends to sit around and look at it - heaven Roger Get thee behind me Satan ! Like all of us involved in engineering we see these bits of kit we used "back in the day" with nary a thought to the many thosusands of pounds worth of precision equipment entrusted to spotty 16-21 year old apprentices whilst we found different ways to scrap the many projects we were set. It was expected...learning is bought by experience...and the experience is bought by doing things wrong...but then learning how not to do it again. This is pure machine tool porn, and buying the vice would be so satisfying...but you'd soon realise that the once in 3 years you would get to use it for a project that demanded it ... even just bolted it to a pillar drill, would not go anywhere near justifying buying it. As Kevin says a little ingenuity with simpler equipment ( a simple 4 inch tilting vice £75-£120...from RDG or other supplier) and a clocked face with a DTi confirming the angle allows valve cutouts to be machined into piston crowns for the odd occasion you need to do it. But how I ache to buy it... Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted March 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 Hi Mick, exactly so. I have had it n my little workshop for 12 years now and not used it - criminal really. When I left work and they were shutting down the little machine shop we had ( I was the last person interested to do anything i there) the manager was kind enough to allow me to take it under my wing for safe keeping. They have not asked for it back as yet. If they are quick they can get it off Ebay - bargain. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 I hope it finds a worthy owner Roger, a countries engineering heritage demands use. Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted April 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 One bid so far (£50). Hopefully the person will use rather than sell it on t make a big profit. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john.r.davies Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 (edited) As Roger says that is serious bit of kit! But I needed a vice recently, to put in my new (to me) race barge, that has a tiny workshop in the back, with a bench. The bench has a thick rim , as befits one that is mobile, and I wanted a vice that would clamp to that, and act in the normal orientation. I found that Stanley does a light vice (again, nothing like Rogers!) that includes a spherical joint. It's their "Stanley 1-83-069 Multi Angle Hobby Vice Swivel Clamp 75mm 3" STA183069" . Anyone with a similar need might consider it. John Edited April 1, 2021 by john.r.davies Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted April 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 That looks like a neat solution. Stanley have always had a good name. I have many Stanley tools dating back to the 60's Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted April 2, 2021 Report Share Posted April 2, 2021 In a similar vein, if you are looking for toolroom tools, e.g. depth mics etc. a few years ago there were loads coming up on Ebay, presumbly from retired gents (yep, I know there will have been ladies as well but they would have been few and far between), who no longer had a need for them (or even deceased and their relatives weren't interested). Rgds Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted April 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2021 14 minutes ago, Ian Vincent said: In a similar vein, if you are looking for toolroom tools, e.g. depth mics etc. a few years ago there were loads coming up on Ebay, presumbly from retired gents (yep, I know there will have been ladies as well but they would have been few and far between), who no longer had a need for them (or even deceased and their relatives weren't interested). Rgds Ian 'ang on a minute - what are you insinuating. Sue actually said that same the other day about me Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted April 2, 2021 Report Share Posted April 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, RogerH said: 'ang on a minute - what are you insinuating. Sue actually said that same the other day about me Roger What that you are deceased? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted April 2, 2021 Report Share Posted April 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Ian Vincent said: In a similar vein, if you are looking for toolroom tools, e.g. depth mics etc. a few years ago there were loads coming up on Ebay, presumbly from retired gents (yep, I know there will have been ladies as well but they would have been few and far between), who no longer had a need for them (or even deceased and their relatives weren't interested). Rgds Ian Yes I have noticed this too and recently bought 3 off 2” Baty dial gauges that read to one tenth of a thousandth of an inch for £30. Delivered. 0.0001” reading accuracy. They are immaculate and all measure similarly when checked as comparators and on know dimensions. The fact they are imperial makes them less attractive to many modern users. One has already been donated to a friend for his workshop use. Peter W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted April 2, 2021 Report Share Posted April 2, 2021 The boyfriend of one of my daughters worked in the QA department of a local factory making rubber/metal bushes for the car industry. They moved production to Poland, and he was told to throw all the metrology equipment that was due for calibration in a skip. The 'manager' in charge of the move saw the stickers stating 'Not Calibrated' and assumed it meant 'inaccurate'. I acquired about 6 dial gauges, a few digital vernier calipers, a couple of digital micrometers, a height gauge... all Mitutoyo and in as new condition, most still in the original boxes. Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted April 2, 2021 Report Share Posted April 2, 2021 On 3/31/2021 at 7:00 PM, RogerH said: Hi Folks, this is a serious bit of kit. Jones&Shipman are top notch British manufacturers of workshop tooling. this tilting/swivel vice is in perfect condition, years of grime but superficial. It is here on Ebay Here Typical price on the bay is aprx £350 Roger This reminds me to my heavy carpenter vice I bought years ago at Beaulieu atumn jumble. I carried it across the market in my rucksack, later to the village and lawn along the river to see the wild horses. Brave (or stupid) as I am I huged one of them, this worked well until the horse wanted to kick me, gave me a touch with his back, I stumbled backwards, stumbled, stumbled - and tumbled on the rucksack and vice and layed there like a beetle. "Ouuuuh" was the sorrow comment of the audience.... The vice serves me well since this days. Ciao, Marco Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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RogerH Posted April 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Z320 said: This reminds me to my heavy carpenter vice I bought years ago at Beaulieu atumn jumble. I carried it across the market in my rucksack, later to the village and lawn along the river to see the wild horses. Brave (or stupid) as I am I huged one of them, this worked well until the horse wanted to kick me, gave me a touch with his back, I stumbled backwards, stumbled, stumbled - and tumbled on the rucksack and vice and layed there like a beetle. "Ouuuuh" was the sorrow comment of the audience.... The vice serves me well since this days. Ciao, Marco Hi Marco, it does not matter how hard you fall on one of these vices you will not break it Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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RogerH Posted April 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 Hi Folks, well that worked out OK. It sold for just under £200. What next. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 35 minutes ago, RogerH said: What next. Depends what other 'clutter' you have Roger! Glad that vice sold for a fair price. Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 It deserved at least that price Roger, a cracking piece of kit, I hope whomever bought it uses it well and doesn't just mark it up 100% for a "flip on" price to others. Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted April 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, Motorsport Mickey said: It deserved at least that price Roger, a cracking piece of kit, I hope whomever bought it uses it well and doesn't just mark it up 100% for a "flip on" price to others. Mick Richards It sounds like it is going to a workshop. He has a Bridport milling machine. Hopefully it will get a good life. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony_C Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 I’m just re-reading through "Secret War Cabinet" documents..... as you do!?...... from 1917... This particular tome concerns the ‘Future Status of the Mercantile Marine’ from Lord Inchcape to Shipping Controller dated 6th July 1917... Of all the different chapters and many pages, the broad topics include ‘Lessons from abroad’, ‘Shipbuilding’ , ‘Unemployment’ - Memorandum by the President of the Board of Trade, ‘Trade Facilities’ , ‘Should Britain Retire from the North Atlantic ‘, Royal Mail group holdings’ (both these two from 1932 and fascinating ) - "A business of National Importance ", etc and etc....... However, getting to the point......years ago I had underlined one stand out (for me) quote.. Quote Investment, invention... leads to innovation... leads to further investment, innovation...... Why didn’t anyone listen? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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