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https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-03-people-mind-harder.html

I am one of that select band, no "mind's eye". Apparently my fright level is lower than normals'.

But I can visualise structures in 3D without seeing them, no problem.

My mind's eye is swirling blackness and I thought that was normal until ca 2005.

As one in fifty have aphantasia there.s a good chance that several fellow TRers are unaware that they are unscarable !

Peter

 

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I thought at first you meant the Walter Disney film from the 1940’s, with a similar name.

I remember it well, elephants and a hippopotamus wearing a dress and dancing about.

Now that was terrifying.

 

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Unscarable by the written word , that is - all the test subjects were scared by visual imagery.

Now those who are not scared by anything, e.g. that his captor might cut off a second finger after the first is gone, would make an interesting case study!

 

Tom 

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I am none too keen on watching "Chien Andalu "  I used to use it to wake medical students up mid-lecture in the 4 pm slot. Put them off ophthalmlogy for life probably. 

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Jim. Amongst the several thousand TRR members ther will be two or three dozen experiencing aphantasia who might be interested in the link . I dont set out to scare anyone, and my apologies if I have.  Peter             

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Having read the link in the original post I wonder whether the researchers have mistaken the bodies' natural preparedness for 'fight or flight' for actual fear?  The two things are rather different I think.  Maybe having good visualisation and preparedness to act is a survival trait ?

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Rob, I doubt anyone knows. Aphantasia might be pathology or it might be a polymorphism with positive benefit evolutionarlly. I dont know if I;d be distracted my imagined scary images in a minds eye, or not. I can imagine threatening scenarios, but dont "see" them. Peter

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Ganzflicker is an interesting test whether a flcikering red light from your computer screen can induce psychedelic images.

https://theconversation.com/manipulating-light-can-induce-psychedelic-experiences-and-scientists-arent-quite-sure-why-192885

The red flicker is here. DO NOT try if you are suject to epilepsy, and cease if the experience is unpleasant.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf7Fs5gzrcJDUx_75JkZu6xwyGzJ3N9BfyOm6AzOJtqw4Ae3w/viewform

In her earlier work Dr Reeder found that imagery was poor or absent in people with aphantasia:

https://theconversation.com/pseudo-hallucinations-why-some-people-see-more-vivid-mental-images-than-others-test-yourself-here-163025

What I see is.........................................flickering  red light.

Am feeling deprived.

And you?

Peter

 

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I just found it intensely annoying.  Like driving along a tree-lined road with a low sun. Didn't stick it for 2 minutes.  

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On 10/24/2022 at 9:35 PM, Peter Cobbold said:

Ganzflicker is an interesting test whether a flcikering red light from your computer screen can induce psychedelic images.

https://theconversation.com/manipulating-light-can-induce-psychedelic-experiences-and-scientists-arent-quite-sure-why-192885

The red flicker is here. DO NOT try if you are suject to epilepsy, and cease if the experience is unpleasant.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf7Fs5gzrcJDUx_75JkZu6xwyGzJ3N9BfyOm6AzOJtqw4Ae3w/viewform

In her earlier work Dr Reeder found that imagery was poor or absent in people with aphantasia:

https://theconversation.com/pseudo-hallucinations-why-some-people-see-more-vivid-mental-images-than-others-test-yourself-here-163025

What I see is.........................................flickering  red light.

Am feeling deprived.

And you?

Peter

 

I too see a flickering red light

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I tried the red flickering light site and have to admit that I soon saw a beautiful star light sky in front of me. The red background was like just before sunset and stars of different sizes twinkled across the sky.

Then I looked closer and realized that the “Stars” were deposits of some sort that were stuck to my screen.

It must have happened yesterday when my wife’s cat was sitting on my desk and had a sneezing fit.

(My cat is far more civilized and always carries a handkerchief with her.)

Charlie

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So that's 4 out of 4 of us with no induced images.

Line 408 et seq outlines what a test population of "imagers" saw:

https://psyarxiv.com/8gz4m/

Are TRers all aphants??

Peter

 

 

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