boxofbits Posted March 7, 2021 Report Share Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) Hi All Seems there are generally two types of carpet ring retainer available, so is there one type better than the other? I notice in the triangular version, the fixing has a cut in it to allow it to expand when Fitting or removing. The circular version doesn’t have this cut and therefore potentially harder to remove, and make even pull the dot stud out of its fixing. What did the factory use? I notice in the latest TR Action I think it was, a concourse competition was decided on a split decision over how clean the engine oil was. Perhaps the correct position and type of fastener could be a future decider! Also is there a reasonably priced pair of cutting pliers for underfelt that will cut neat circular holes in 2mm material for dot studs? Kevin Edited March 7, 2021 by boxofbits Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted March 7, 2021 Report Share Posted March 7, 2021 I've only ever used to top version, & have found no problems with them. Bob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted March 7, 2021 Report Share Posted March 7, 2021 I have the triangular version and find they can be a bit tricky to undo. Sometimes the bent over tags come adrift rather than the popper just do what it should and come undone. Rgds Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted March 7, 2021 Report Share Posted March 7, 2021 To make a punch. Length of gas pipe the right diameter to match the size of hole you want. File the end edge to form a sharp cutting blade. Place sharp end of tube on the position of item to be cut. Whack it with an appropriate hammer over a hardwood or lead cutting block to cut the hole you want. When it blunts resharpen with file. This sort of cutter has worked fine for me for any years on soft material like carpet Peter W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 I only use the round version, the triangular end up bent out of shape after a couple of times, The popper part should be screwed or riveted in so shouldnt come off. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boxofbits Posted March 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Thanks Gents it seems the circular type is the popular choice, and as Stuart says the triangular one is more likely to go out of shape. Ian the tags can have a tendency to pull out, though once I’ve got the ring in place I remove the carpet section and firmly tap the tags down with a small drift to make sure it locks the retainer. I think if they are not really flattened firmly they might pull through. The factory parts manual states A/R for these parts but does list a longer stud and screw for when underfelt is used, so assume they used these from the factory ( items 7 @ 8 ) ? https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/underfelt-carpet-fittings-tr2-4a-1953-67.html Thanks for the tip on the underfelt punch Peter, I’ll make one up. Kevin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 56 minutes ago, boxofbits said: Thanks Gents it seems the circular type is the popular choice, and as Stuart says the triangular one is more likely to go out of shape. Ian the tags can have a tendency to pull out, though once I’ve got the ring in place I remove the carpet section and firmly tap the tags down with a small drift to make sure it locks the retainer. I think if they are not really flattened firmly they might pull through. The factory parts manual states A/R for these parts but does list a longer stud and screw for when underfelt is used, so assume they used these from the factory ( items 7 @ 8 ) ? https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/underfelt-carpet-fittings-tr2-4a-1953-67.html Thanks for the tip on the underfelt punch Peter, I’ll make one up. Kevin Have you seen the difference in price for the longer stud? Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 hour ago, boxofbits said: Thanks Gents it seems the circular type is the popular choice, and as Stuart says the triangular one is more likely to go out of shape. Ian the tags can have a tendency to pull out, though once I’ve got the ring in place I remove the carpet section and firmly tap the tags down with a small drift to make sure it locks the retainer. I think if they are not really flattened firmly they might pull through. The factory parts manual states A/R for these parts but does list a longer stud and screw for when underfelt is used, so assume they used these from the factory ( items 7 @ 8 ) ? https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/underfelt-carpet-fittings-tr2-4a-1953-67.html Thanks for the tip on the underfelt punch Peter, I’ll make one up. Kevin Yes they were factory fitted. To replicate cheaply the use of a 2 BA nut under the press stud is sometimes used to raise the stud through the felt, rather than buy the correct item. These longer pegs were made of aluminium or latterly black plastic. 611845 is the aluminium item. Peter W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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