Lee Dutton Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 The door handles on my 664a are pitted and really beyond repair, I am considering Moss replacements about £160 a pair But before I do , has anyone any experience of these or are there any other choices. Best regards to all Lee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, Lee Dutton said: The door handles on my 664a are pitted and really beyond repair, I am considering Moss replacements about £160 a pair But before I do , has anyone any experience of these or are there any other choices. Best regards to all Lee You should be able to get them re-chromed for that. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 Hi Lee, from the pic on the Moss WebCat they are worse then useless. I think they are off a Bedford TRuck They do not have the little lever on the back of the lock that activates the internal door lock. They also have a spigot where a screw should go. Get yours re-chromed. However speak to the metal finisher and ensure that all the holes etc are protected. Otherwise the plunger may not fit afterwards. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peejay4A Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 I didn’t fancy the repro handles so I swapped mine side for side so the unblemished chrome is at the top. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, peejay4A said: I didn’t fancy the repro handles so I swapped mine side for side so the unblemished chrome is at the top. Hi Pete, did you change over the internals - as they are handed. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peejay4A Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 I refurbished the internals. The only consequence is that they lock and unlock in the “wrong” sense but you get used to that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RAHTR4 Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 Hi Lee, You have a P.M. Regards, Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grahamgl Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 I read somewhere that the “new” handles have the fixing stud, that is adjacent to the push button, in the wrong place and the door skin has to be drilled to form a fixing hole. Graham Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 9 hours ago, Grahamgl said: I read somewhere that the “new” handles have the fixing stud, that is adjacent to the push button, in the wrong place and the door skin has to be drilled to form a fixing hole. Graham Hi Graham, there are normally two fixing screws on the handle. That stud is extra and not required. That handle is not for our cars. As mentioned above it also does not have the internal door lock lever. They could be made to work properly but would take time and effort. Something the suppliers are not always interested in. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
signalredshaker Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 I managed to get one new one on Ebay from America two years ago- it was bought for me by a family member and brought over when they came to visit. The other side I made up using quite a lot of engineering, swearing and deep though as to how to change the handing of a good outer casing to fit. Quite a task involving drilling and tapping but got there in the end. A good start is to have a few spare handles from which to use parts as they are handed- and very fiddly. If you have your own outers and buttons chrome plated be careful that the buttons don't get polished too much by the plater, as they get loose and the keyway on the button gets worn away- learned that long ago. James Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meesonia Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 Hi Just jumping on the back of this, I've had my Handles away for chrome plating, and I'm now re assembling them. There are 2 small Csk screws that hold the backplate on, pic attached, anyone know what size these are? The tapped holes in the Handle have got some crud in them, I've cleaned out the worst, but the screw is still very tight, so could do to run a tap down. The screw measures 0.107 inches dia, so puts it close to 6BA. Is this likely? My TPI thread gauge only goes down to 28, but on the other side, which I guess is metric, a 0.5mm looks to be very close. which brings me back to 6BA which has a pitch of 0.0209. What do we think? Thanks. Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 UNC - Unified Coarse Thread Major Diameter (in) Threads per inch Major Diameter Tap Drill Size Pitch #1 - 64 64 0.073" 1.854mm 1.50mm 0.397mm #2 - 56 56 0.086" 2.184mm 1.80mm 0.453mm #3 - 48 48 0.099" 2.515mm 2.100mm 0.529mm #4 - 40 40 0.112" 2.845mm 2.350mm 0.635mm Could be 3-48 UNC ? Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, meesonia said: Hi Just jumping on the back of this, I've had my Handles away for chrome plating, and I'm now re assembling them. There are 2 small Csk screws that hold the backplate on, pic attached, anyone know what size these are? The tapped holes in the Handle have got some crud in them, I've cleaned out the worst, but the screw is still very tight, so could do to run a tap down. The screw measures 0.107 inches dia, so puts it close to 6BA. Is this likely? My TPI thread gauge only goes down to 28, but on the other side, which I guess is metric, a 0.5mm looks to be very close. which brings me back to 6BA which has a pitch of 0.0209. What do we think? Thanks. Ian Most of the typical small screws are much bigger than your measured 0.107" So gently run a 6BA tap down the holes. But firstly- hold the 6BA tap against the screw to compare the threads Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meesonia Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 Thanks Roger / Bob, I've ordered both taps, a 3-48UNC & a 6BA, cheap enough on the bay for what I need. I'll let you know. Cheers Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meesonia Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 Hi It's 6BA guys, the tap arrived yesterday, the UNC one is still to come. But 6BA was a good fit with the screw thread, even with my poor "mince pies" so with careful introduction to the hole it went down a treat, and the screws now go in perfect. Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 Good result, & you have two nice taps for future use ! Bob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 39 minutes ago, meesonia said: Hi It's 6BA guys, the tap arrived yesterday, the UNC one is still to come. But 6BA was a good fit with the screw thread, even with my poor "mince pies" so with careful introduction to the hole it went down a treat, and the screws now go in perfect. Ian In model engineering circles (and I haven't a clue why) 6BA is referred to as the 'perfect thread' form. Something to do with diameter/pitch/tpi etc etc. It is a very scientifically (more so mathematically) designed thread form. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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