Eddie Trickett Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 I have tried a search for this topic but it came up with gearbox mounts and other topics before even mentioning wiper motors. I have the 3 threaded bars, washers and nuts but no grommets. I can't find anyone that sells these. Does anyone know where to buy them and have a picture/diagram of the arrangement. Thanks Eddie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 17H5431 is the kit part number The rubber bit alone Moss know as 17H5431X but do not have any. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLASSIC-MINI-WIPER-MOTOR-MOUNTING-KIT-MK1-SET-OF-3-17H5431-AUSTIN-MORRIS-BD14-/283331804405?ul_ref=https%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F710-53481-19255-0%2F1%3Ficep_ff3%3D2%26pub%3D5574933636%26toolid%3D10001%26campid%3D5337487963%26customid%3D%26mpre%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww%252Eebay%252Eco%252Euk%252Fitm%252FCLASSIC-MINI-WIPER-MOTOR-MOUNTING-KIT-MK1-SET-OF-3-17H5431-AUSTIN-MORRIS-BD14-%252F283331804405%26srcrot%3D710-53481-19255-0%26rvr_id%3D2770037927901%26rvr_ts%3D0752f51c1770a77d7ae5fdfeffc9018b&ul_noapp=true Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim T Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 I bought some from Moss but could not use them. There was no way they would pass through the mounting bracket. Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 Try Rolls Royce ones at 21p each. They are slightly smaller diameter and a bit thinner than TR ones. Sadly out of stock too. pt no CD 4208 https://www.introcar.co.uk/lookbook/wiper-motor-chassis-numbers-1001-6003-li812 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Tim T said: I bought some from Moss but could not use them. There was no way they would pass through the mounting bracket. Tim Hi Tim, can you clarify - what wouldn;t pass through whatever etc Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim T Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 Hope the pic clarifies and that I haven't spoken out of turn. Atb Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) Should be assembled Stud screwed into motor holding washer against motor. motor with stud and washer pass through grommet All held from below by washer and nut In your picture I cannot see the upper washer gripped between motor and stud. Nor the lower washer come to that. The mounting arrangement is not a solid set up. There should be flex between the motor and mounting bracket. Cheers Peter W Edited January 15, 2021 by BlueTR3A-5EKT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim T Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 Oops, thanks Pete! I had better revisit this. I think that I just put back what I took off. Thanks, Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, Tim T said: Oops, thanks Pete! I had better revisit this. I think that I just put back what I took off. Thanks, Tim Very common mistake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie Trickett Posted January 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 I had no idea what the grommets looked like or how they fit. I know now which is the beauty of this forum. Thanks to everybody. Edd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim T Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 Well, I too obviously didn’t know how they fitted. Learn something everyday!!! Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
silverfox4 Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 I also had this problem - turns out the PO used the grommets for the engine cooling fan mounting Cheers, Alf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John L Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 I found these from a Morris Minor could they work? https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/bush-pin-set-wiper-motor-mounting-17h5431.html?assoc=137369 John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Hi John, they may well fit but the stud comes in different lengths. You need to check that out. Ones for Jaguar are too short. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, John L said: I found these from a Morris Minor could they work? https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/bush-pin-set-wiper-motor-mounting-17h5431.html?assoc=137369 John Same item as TR. if you look further down the linked page Moss tell you where else the same item is used. MG AH TR etc Lucas were quite good about standardising parts like threads and fixings when the same design item was used across vehicle ranges. Typical item is the screw that holds the points in the 23 & 25 D distributors that fitted a whole industry of engines in the 60’s You may note it was described as “SCREW, for points” A witty we once got passed the censors for many years. It is now Screw, point set to base plate Pt no GCS 1001S Peter W Edited January 16, 2021 by BlueTR3A-5EKT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John L Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Grommet available from MGOC, 17 - Grommet - Mounting 17H5431X [17] Price: £2.95 / €3.26 / US $3.18 (Including VAT at 20% except $ price) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim T Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just checked the mounting on my motor following Pete’s comments and to my relief the washers are where they should but do not show in the photos. Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie D Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 I spent a couple of hours trying to get the grommets through the holes. Eventually I cut the grommets in half and put each half individually each side of the bracket. As long as they were both centralised and the nuts tightened up (with the washers in place) it seemed to do the trick. Charlie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Charlie D said: I spent a couple of hours trying to get the grommets through the holes. Eventually I cut the grommets in half and put each half individually each side of the bracket. As long as they were both centralised and the nuts tightened up (with the washers in place) it seemed to do the trick. Charlie. Although I have not had an issue with these grommets others that I have struggled with I dealt with in a different way. I cut the grommet down its length so it could be opened up in a 'C' shape then you can feed an open end into the hole and screw it in place. I would not advise this if the grommet is protecting thin individual cables. But looms work well as would the wiper grommets. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Problem usually is theyre made from either too hard a "Shore" rubber or not even rubber, they were never easy to fit when you could get originals mind. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie Trickett Posted January 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just wondering if I could use short lengths of rubber pipe. One diameter to fit the hole in the bracket with the screwed bar inside and the larger to cut rubber washers to go either side of the bracket between the large washers. Eddie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie D Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, RogerH said: ...I cut the grommet down its length so it could be opened up in a 'C' shape... Ahhh... Probably a better solution. At least you keep it in one piece. Charlie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnC Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Does nobody else use the windscreen installer trick? Using a cord/string in the grommet? Might not work if the material is too hard, but works well for me on rubbery grommets. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 23 minutes ago, JohnC said: Does nobody else use the windscreen installer trick? Using a cord/string in the grommet? Might not work if the material is too hard, but works well for me on rubbery grommets. John I'll TRy that one day Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
qkingston Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 I bought these from https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lucas-743176-DR2-DR3-Wiper-Motor-Rubber-Mounts-for-Mini-MG-Morris-17H5431/202782535241?epid=2038775097&hash=item2f36c7ee49:g:40IAAOxyf2pR55qg I found with a drop of washing up liquid and a lot of patience I could get them through the holes in the mounting plate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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