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On 11/18/2020 at 6:24 PM, Greg said:

Hi Stuart, I assumed it was a middle stud. I shall get some photos and post them so you will have a better understanding of my issues. 
 

thanks

Greg

Hi Stuart,

I now have some photos to share. You will I hope understand where I am coming from regarding seals etc for the roof. If you can help, I’d appreciate it. 
I hope to gain a lot of experience from being her back to former glory. 

Thanks, Greg

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As you can see in this diagram there is a rear bar that slides into a pocket sewn into the soft section held down with two thumb screws to hold it down no poppers apart from the ends. Also the rear seal is sponge rubber so soft https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/triumph/tr5-6/weather-equipment/hard-tops/surrey-top-fittings-tr5-tr250-1967-68.html

Stuart.

 

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5 hours ago, RogerH said:

Hi Greg, 

those studs should not be there. The back is held down by a curved bar sewn into the fabric

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Hi Roger, those studs are on the rear light and the hood I have has the poppers. Strange. 
 

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I seem to remember another member fitting these extra poppers because he had a problem screwing upwards into the curved rear bar that as Stuart says is placed within the rear section of the soft top. The damage you've seen on the rear backlight window top frame (that's it's name) is normally caused by the hardtop having a corresponding pad on the underside which sits on the rear frame there, some members cut out a circle of thin rubber and stick it onto the hardtop pad to help prevent it.

Mick Richards  

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16 hours ago, Greg said:

Hi Roger, those studs are on the rear light and the hood I have has the poppers. Strange. 
 

Greg

I have a scrap Surrey soft section here that has poppers across the middle at the rear, they shouldnt be there but back in the days when people didnt know any better it was a way of fitting it when either the bar dropped out or someone lost the thumb screws to hold it down with, bush engineering.

Stuart.

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On 11/21/2020 at 8:53 PM, Motorsport Mickey said:

I seem to remember another member fitting these extra poppers because he had a problem screwing upwards into the curved rear bar that as Stuart says is placed within the rear section of the soft top. The damage you've seen on the rear backlight window top frame (that's it's name) is normally caused by the hardtop having a corresponding pad on the underside which sits on the rear frame there, some members cut out a circle of thin rubber and stick it onto the hardtop pad to help prevent it.

Mick Richards  

Hi Mick,

thank you for the info. At the moment I’m think the roof and the back light might need some professional help. If I do anything myself, I’ll keep your advice in mind. 
 

Greg

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10 hours ago, stuart said:

I have a scrap Surrey soft section here that has poppers across the middle at the rear, they shouldnt be there but back in the days when people didnt know any better it was a way of fitting it when either the bar dropped out or someone lost the thumb screws to hold it down with, bush engineering.

Stuart.

I think this might be the bush engineering version. The car was exported to Sweden in the early 90’s, where it underwent a restoration. It has been brought to the U.K. recently and I intend to bring back to a decent standard. The engine and gearbox seem solid. 
 

Greg

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On 11/22/2020 at 9:11 PM, Greg said:

I think this might be the bush engineering version. The car was exported to Sweden in the early 90’s, where it underwent a restoration. It has been brought to the U.K. recently and I intend to bring back to a decent standard. The engine and gearbox seem solid. 
 

Greg

Hi Stuart,

I would just like your advice re the hard roof on the TR4. Ad you’ve seen, mine has had additional pressure studs fitted in order to fit the Surrey top. I’m seeing a fabricator this week and was wondering if I should ask the to remove and repair the middle 3 studs, leaving the outer 2 and then obtain a “proper” survey top?

I would like to keep the car as original as possible (where practical).

I assumed to roof was steel, but in fact it’s aluminium. 
 

Kind regards

Greg

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