Greg Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 Hi, I’ve recently purchased a 1963 TR4 which came with an original steel hard top. I don’t think it is complete seal wise. Can anyone supply me with photos of the underside of theirs so I can get some reference points? Mine seems to have this hard lip on the underside at the rear that is breaking up. Also, is there a seal that covers the press studs for the soft Surrey top? any help would be gratefully appreciated. Greg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike3md Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 Greg, Sorry, my top is on the car at the moment. Have a look at the parts drawings here: https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/triumph/tr2-4a/weather-equipment/hard-tops/surrey-top-fittings-tr4-4a-1961-67.html Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
little jim Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Dunno if these help. on a 4A Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim T Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 This is what was on the rear of my steel lid and has now been replaced with very similar profile. front edge is a substantial rubber seal. will see if I have any images of that. Hope it helps. Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim T Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 ... best that I can find. Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 3 hours ago, little jim said: Dunno if these help. on a 4A Your missing the rear seal Jim Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Tim T said: ... best that I can find. Tim Hi Tim, during the Spring lock down I was doing as mini refurb on the 4A and noticed that the inner lip pf the steel lid look unfinished. Although the roof lining fabric was nicely shaped around it it looked bare. So I fitted it with black fur flex and though I was only person in the world to have done it - oooopps speak too soon. It looks much neater with the furflex. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, RogerH said: Hi Tim, during the Spring lock down I was doing as mini refurb on the 4A and noticed that the inner lip pf the steel lid look unfinished. Although the roof lining fabric was nicely shaped around it it looked bare. So I fitted it with black fur flex and though I was only person in the world to have done it - oooopps speak too soon. It looks much neater with the furflex. Roger That was original. Stuart Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim T Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Great minds obviously think alike. Trying to be as boringly original as possible within reason! Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 6 hours ago, stuart said: That was original. Stuart Thanks Stuart, the lid came without the trim but had plenty of rust to compensate. I'm glad TRiumph didn't go for cheap furflexless furnishing. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greg Posted November 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/14/2020 at 6:31 PM, mike3md said: Greg, Sorry, my top is on the car at the moment. Have a look at the parts drawings here: https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/triumph/tr2-4a/weather-equipment/hard-tops/surrey-top-fittings-tr4-4a-1961-67.html Mike Hi Mike, I have looked at the drawings and even printed them off in readiness to order the parts. My problem is identifying what goes where. It’s a major headache. thanks for responding. greg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 Hi Greg, where about's are you? If near Heathrow airport then pop over to me and see mine Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greg Posted November 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/15/2020 at 7:57 AM, little jim said: Dunno if these help. on a 4A Hi Little Jim, thank you, photos are always helpful. I shall print the off for ease of comparing. My roof seems to have a solid piece towards the back that is breaking up. I’m guessing it’s a seal that someone has stuck on and it is now perishing due to age. It’s also covered in paint! greg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greg Posted November 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/15/2020 at 9:44 AM, Tim T said: This is what was on the rear of my steel lid and has now been replaced with very similar profile. front edge is a substantial rubber seal. will see if I have any images of that. Hope it helps. Tim Hi Tim, that looks very much like mine, but it is breaking up. There are no other seals anywhere on the lid. There is however, a spot where the central press stud has rubbed on the underside of the roof. thanks for the photo. Greg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greg Posted November 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/15/2020 at 9:53 AM, Tim T said: ... best that I can find. Tim Hi Tim, is that the front of the roof or back? Greg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greg Posted November 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/15/2020 at 11:18 AM, stuart said: Your missing the rear seal Jim Stuart. Hi Stuart, I see the seal plainly, but what is that it is butting up to? Thanks for the photo. greg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greg Posted November 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, RogerH said: Hi Greg, where about's are you? If near Heathrow airport then pop over to me and see mine Roger Hi Roger, I’m in Thruxton, Andover; sadly. Thanks for the offer. I’m desperate to get the roof sorted, it will be my start to restoring the car, which to be fair is in good nick. It was restored in the early 90’s. Now it needs bringing back up. Greg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 Hi Greg, If I get time during the week I'll take mine off and take some pics. I hope it doesn't rain. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim T Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 Greg, This pic is the front n/s corner. . ...and this is the remains of the seal across the rear of the lid. Hope this helps. Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim T Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 Greg, The lid should, I believe, have a pretty heavy seal to the front, a neoprene rubber seal on the rear, and 2 cantrail seals that sit in the channels above each window. You can see these channels in my first pic. However I am an apprentice, Stuart is the master. Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greg Posted November 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 hours ago, RogerH said: Hi Greg, If I get time during the week I'll take mine off and take some pics. I hope it doesn't rain. Roger Hi Roger, thank you for offering to do that for me. I could drive down to Heathrow with mine in the boot of my everyday car. Though it wouldn’t be for a while; I have a lot on at the moment. thanks again, Greg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greg Posted November 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Tim T said: Greg, The lid should, I believe, have a pretty heavy seal to the front, a neoprene rubber seal on the rear, and 2 cantrail seals that sit in the channels above each window. You can see these channels in my first pic. However I am an apprentice, Stuart is the master. Tim Hi Tim, thanks for the updated info. I am going to turn mine over again. I’ll put some pictures on when I’ve done it. cheers Greg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Greg said: Hi Roger, thank you for offering to do that for me. I could drive down to Heathrow with mine in the boot of my everyday car. Though it wouldn’t be for a while; I have a lot on at the moment. thanks again, Greg Being in this lock down is a pain preventing us progressing our hobbies with non essential travel. not long now tho give thanks for this forum it’s a sanity saver. Edited November 18, 2020 by Hamish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 14 hours ago, Greg said: Hi Tim, that looks very much like mine, but it is breaking up. There are no other seals anywhere on the lid. There is however, a spot where the central press stud has rubbed on the underside of the roof. thanks for the photo. Greg What central press stud? there should only be one either end at the rear on the top corners of the frame. (I know this is a Honeybourne fibre one but same rule applies to originals) Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greg Posted November 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 9 hours ago, stuart said: What central press stud? there should only be one either end at the rear on the top corners of the frame. (I know this is a Honeybourne fibre one but same rule applies to originals) Stuart. Hi Stuart, I assumed it was a middle stud. I shall get some photos and post them so you will have a better understanding of my issues. thanks Greg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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