Jo Neyskens Posted November 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 38 minutes ago, Drewmotty said: The seal looks the same as mine. Small side up big side down. Does your seal reach the body? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drewmotty Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 32 minutes ago, Jo Neyskens said: Does your seal reach the body? Yes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geko Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) Must be the other way around indeed. The backlight must lay evenly flat on the rear deck which isn't your case. To start with, make sure that the side and rear brown panels fit snug BEHIND the inner edge of the backlight, it looks as though the backlight is just resting on the panels that's why it sits too high. Your side and rear leathery flaps need to go and keep only the cardboard panels like on the pic below. Edited November 25, 2020 by Geko Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drewmotty Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 Are you trying to fit it with the original soft top trim in place. You will need to remove the original trim around the rear cockpit before fitting the backlight. You will need the bespoke hard top rear trim at the rear. I think that the side trim may be the the same although yours will have holes in it for the hood stick mounting. The trim slides up between the edge of the backlight and the tonneau deck after the backlight has been fitted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jo Neyskens Posted November 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 5 hours ago, Geko said: Must be the other way around indeed. The backlight must lay evenly flat on the rear deck which isn't your case. To start with, make sure that the side and rear brown panels fit snug BEHIND the inner edge of the backlight, it looks as though the backlight is just resting on the panels that's why it sits too high. Your side and rear leathery flaps need to go and keep only the cardboard panels like on the pic below. Ah ok, indeed the leather flaps are still under the surrey because I like this more than the cardboard plates :). Is there any way to keep it? I think they look nice Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jo Neyskens Posted November 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Drewmotty said: Are you trying to fit it with the original soft top trim in place. You will need to remove the original trim around the rear cockpit before fitting the backlight. You will need the bespoke hard top rear trim at the rear. I think that the side trim may be the the same although yours will have holes in it for the hood stick mounting. The trim slides up between the edge of the backlight and the tonneau deck after the backlight has been fitted. indeed the leather flaps are still under the surrey because I like this more than the cardboard plates :). Is there any way to keep it? I think they look nice Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 41 minutes ago, Jo Neyskens said: indeed the leather flaps are still under the surrey because I like this more than the cardboard plates :). Is there any way to keep it? I think they look nice No Im afraid the rear area on a Surrey top car only has the ordinary vinyl covered trim boards that should sit up under the inner lip of the Surrey frame, theres no way it will sit down far enough otherwise. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jo Neyskens Posted November 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 18 minutes ago, stuart said: No Im afraid the rear area on a Surrey top car only has the ordinary vinyl covered trim boards that should sit up under the inner lip of the Surrey frame, theres no way it will sit down far enough otherwise. Stuart. Thank you guys for the info!!! Great forum . Maybe I can order nicer panels from rimmerbros than I have now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, Jo Neyskens said: Thank you guys for the info!!! Great forum . Maybe I can order nicer panels from rimmerbros than I have now Doubt it, I would buy from TR Shop. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drewmotty Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 There is a vinyl covered pleated rear panel for use with a hardtop which will look very similar to your soft top trim. You can buy it from TR Shop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jo Neyskens Posted November 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 21 hours ago, stuart said: Doubt it, I would buy from TR Shop. Stuart. It worked out after a lot of trying :). The original cover is in place under the surrey top. Still more beautiful than the regular panels I think . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jo Neyskens Posted November 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Jo Neyskens said: It worked out after a lot of trying :). The original cover is in place under the surrey top. Still more beautiful than the regular panels I think . Now I have to finish the inside. Maybe blacken the flaps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jo Neyskens Posted November 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 Just now, Jo Neyskens said: Now I have to finish the inside. Maybe blacken the flaps. I mean the interior of the backlight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jo Neyskens Posted November 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 Just now, Jo Neyskens said: I mean the interior of the backlight I have not over-tightened the backlight. Am afraid the window may break Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted November 26, 2020 Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 49 minutes ago, Jo Neyskens said: I have not over-tightened the backlight. Am afraid the window may break If its an original glass theyre quite strong compared to the repro laminated ones. The interior lining should be white and you will need to make up a couple of flat inserts to cover up the sides where the front studs are located, theyre easily done from card or thin ally and covered with headling material. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jo Neyskens Posted November 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 1 hour ago, stuart said: If its an original glass theyre quite strong compared to the repro laminated ones. The interior lining should be white and you will need to make up a couple of flat inserts to cover up the sides where the front studs are located, theyre easily done from card or thin ally and covered with headling material. Stuart. Ok, thanks Stuart!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geko Posted November 26, 2020 Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 Wonder how you managed to do that ? Even with the cardboard panels only it is quite a snug fit. One thing is sure: the backlight isn't resting on the rear deck so you're on for water Ingress and sealing problem especially around the windows Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drewmotty Posted November 26, 2020 Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 It should look like this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jo Neyskens Posted November 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Geko said: Wonder how you managed to do that ? Even with the cardboard panels only it is quite a snug fit. One thing is sure: the backlight isn't resting on the rear deck so you're on for water Ingress and sealing problem especially around the windows Tried without the interior too. Then there was also a space of about half an inch. I thought a good rubber would fill and seal this? I have not attached this rubber (Rimmerbros alt version) yet and will send it back. Now looking for a bigger one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jo Neyskens Posted November 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Drewmotty said: It should look like this Nice!! Do you have a picture of the outside and seals of the doors and backlight? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geko Posted November 26, 2020 Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jo Neyskens said: Tried without the interior too. Then there was also a space of about half an inch. I thought a good rubber would fill and seal this? I have not attached this rubber (Rimmerbros alt version) yet and will send it back. Now looking for a bigger one With the backlight sitting too high, good luck in joining the top edge of the windows with the soft top or roof seals. You're headed for trouble methinks Edited November 26, 2020 by Geko Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jo Neyskens Posted November 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/26/2020 at 10:32 AM, stuart said: If its an original glass theyre quite strong compared to the repro laminated ones. The interior lining should be white and you will need to make up a couple of flat inserts to cover up the sides where the front studs are located, theyre easily done from card or thin ally and covered with headling material. Stuart. Can I ask another question about an overdrive A-type? . Do you have experience with that? Is it worth the price? Are there more problems with an overdrive than a regular one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 Just now, Jo Neyskens said: Can I ask another question about an overdrive A-type? . Do you have experience with that? Is it worth the price? Are there more problems with an overdrive than a regular one? Always worth it, when properly built and fitted correctly they are great. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jo Neyskens Posted November 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, stuart said: Always worth it, when properly built and fitted correctly they are great. Stuart. no more problems than a regular one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 39 minutes ago, Jo Neyskens said: no more problems than a regular one? Not if properly built and fitted as I said. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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