Starter non engagement 3a

[Hamish]

52 minutes ago, RAHTR4 said:

Hi Hamish,

This is from memory as it is a long time since I looked at the motor, however I am pretty sure that gear is fixed to the shaft and the shaft moves out of the body in order to engage with the flywheel.

Regards, Richard

 

 

 

Thank you. 
 

that’s my thinking as well. 

[RobH]

Hamish - this is what you should have:

 

The splined washer sits at the rear of the pinion for the internal shock spring to act against. It stops the pinion assembly from going past the end of the splined portion on the shaft.

 

Edited October 11, 2020 by RobH

[Hamish]

7 minutes ago, RobH said:

Hamish - this is what you should have:

 

The splined washer sits at the rear of the pinion for the internal shock spring to act against. It stops the pinion assembly from going past the end of the splined portion on the shaft.

 

Hi Rob

thats a great pic of the parts. 
Are they available as separate parts? Would you share a link as to where you found it. 
thanks

[RobH]

I just did a web-search for WOSP pinion assembly Hamish.  The site is here:

https://www.amp-starters.co.uk/WOSP-LMPK1029---10/29mm-Pinion__p-35746.aspx

but it might not be the right one for your starter.

[Hamish]

44 minutes ago, RobH said:

I just did a web-search for WOSP pinion assembly Hamish.  The site is here:

https://www.amp-starters.co.uk/WOSP-LMPK1029---10/29mm-Pinion__p-35746.aspx

but it might not be the right one for your starter.

Cheers

i didn’t think of them mine is a powerlite  but I’m sure they are all  the same. 

[RogerH]

Hi Hamish,

this is my SM cog it is held against the motor body when not spinning by a strongish spring.

Roger

 

 

[Hamish]

Hi Roger

thanks

I hope you didn’t remove it to check and take the pic!!!?

i think i spy a circlip at the back of the cog too.
this is my down fall I think. 
 

lots to go on now, but hopefully powerlite will help me out. 
 

I’ll report back  

H

Edited October 11, 2020 by Hamish
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[Hamish]

Hi folks

A quick update. 
have exchanged a couple of emails with the starter motor company. 
 

it has been a wonderful experience. Seriously. Not hint of awkwardness they know the unit is 4 years old. Just a confirmation of starter model and pinion size and they are sending me the parts needed today.  for free. After I explained I was happy to do the spanner work rather than send the whole unit back.

in my book some things will go wrong  what really counts is how this is dealt with.

so far my experience is very good.

When the parts arrive I’ll let you know who. ( I’m superstitious so don’t want to risk anything just yet)
H

[RogerH]

Hi Hamish.

 that sounds like good service. I hope you can fit it OK.

 

Roger

[BlueTR3A-5EKT]

When you flick the round spring snap ring  off - and come to replace it -  do it inside a plastic bag as it will fly off round the garage in search of the darkest and most obscure place to hide in.

Peter W

[Lebro]

You will find a valve spring compressor very handy when you come to fit the shielded circlip on the end.

Bob.

[Hamish]

This method has been suggested. 
 

 

[BlueTR3A-5EKT]

Excellent to have a video of the job you are about to do.

 

Peter W

[Hamish]

It’s sad really how excited I was this morning when the postman arrived. 
 

a simple padded envelope containing some little metal parts. 
(Thank you powerlite/Eurolec great customer service.)

but it means I can get in the garage to fix the starter and hopefully remember how everything else goes back together.

[Hamish]

Well it’s all back together and it starts the car. 
 

Despite the video I struggled to fit the retaining clip in the collar  it was very tight. so made a tool/bracket that kept the pinion back whilst I fitted the collar and clip. 
 

thanks to powerlite for the parts for a 4 year old starter. Good customer service in my book.

seemed to take ages to fit the exhaust manifold and carbs.

but I took the opportunity to fit a blank to where the block Tap fits.  That tap was very slack and easily moved as I found out doing the starter blucol pouring out at the slightest touch.

 

[Lebro]

Well done, but that's why I suggested a valve spring compressor to hold back the gear.

A friend of mine had to do the same job on a Wosp starter, & the VSC worked a treat.

Bob.

[Hamish]

12 hours ago, Lebro said:

Well done, but that's why I suggested a valve spring compressor to hold back the gear.

A friend of mine had to do the same job on a Wosp starter, & the VSC worked a treat.

Bob.

Am I allowed to admit I don’t have a valve spring compressor? 

[RogerH]

Hi Hamish,

if ever you want a valve compressor then send me your address and I pop one in the post.

I seem to have collected three over the years.

 

Roger

[Hamish]

12 minutes ago, RogerH said:

Hi Hamish,

if ever you want a valve compressor then send me your address and I pop one in the post.

I seem to have collected three over the years.

 

Roger

That’s very generous of you Roger thank you. 
 

hopefully it’ll be a while before I take the head off to need such technical tools

but I’ll keep you in mind. 

[David Owen]

On 10/17/2020 at 5:04 AM, Hamish said:

It’s sad really how excited I was this morning when the postman arrived. 
 

a simple padded envelope containing some little metal parts. 
(Thank you powerlite/Eurolec great customer service.)

but it means I can get in the garage to fix the starter and hopefully remember how everything else goes back together.

 

 

 

Hahahahaha.  I get upset now when a day goes by without a delivery of some sort related to the car.

 

What is sad is that excellent customer service isn't the norm.

[PhilipB]

Hi Hamish

Did you get any warning signs of imminent failure?

Same type of SM which feels as if it's starting to stick, particularly if the engine didn't fire first time. However, also exploring the possibility that the battery is on the way out.

Cheers

Phil

[Hamish]

Hi Phil

no warning just spinning and no engagement one day. 
 

it always turned on the key but sometimes doesn’t  spin up just using the button on the back of the solenoid.

 

i have had low battery efficiency but that just sounded sluggish.