Parkerscottages Posted May 19, 2020 Report Share Posted May 19, 2020 The 4A hand brake, as we all know is a pain, to get any kind of leverage from unless you have a very strong left arm. I think that I may have seen an article in a past TRAction on how to modify the arm of the hand brake to gain better leverage. Is this correct and has anyone out there tried this with positive results? thanks Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted May 19, 2020 Report Share Posted May 19, 2020 Hi Richard, you can extend the arm on the brake back plate with something like this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-Stag-TR4a-TR5-TR6-2000-2500-Pair-hand-brake-improver/353077638784?fits=Car+Make%3ATriumph&hash=item5235113680:g:9boAAOSwHMJYEKBA or make your own This gives about an extra 25% of pull. Also you can move the hole on the hand brake (that holds the cable cleat) nearer to the pivot bolt. This is standard on the TR6. This will almost double the effective force. And YES - it does work very very well. You do need to keep the shoes adjusted. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Parkerscottages Posted May 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2020 I have ordered a set and see how it goes, tks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rawls Posted May 19, 2020 Report Share Posted May 19, 2020 As Roger says, if move the hole on the hand brake lever it really does make a big difference and is an easy no cost improvement. Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Parkerscottages Posted May 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2020 Hi Roger, would you be ble to send a simple drawing of where to drill the hole on the handbarake?, Tks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted May 20, 2020 Report Share Posted May 20, 2020 Hi Richard, see attached pic. When you have the handle in your hand it will become obvious that it can only go in one place. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tr4aJim Posted May 20, 2020 Report Share Posted May 20, 2020 Here’s a picture I saved from a past discussion on this forum. Apologies to the original poster. Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tim hunt Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 You're welcome Jim Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Moltu Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 There are a couple of things to check before adding the lever extensions which I do recommend- have them on both TRs and the Stag. Check the cables as old ones lose their elasticity and means the tension isn’t maintained when pull the brake on and settling back on the tooth of the ratchet. Make sure the handbrake levers haven’t worn a groove in the back plate, if they have the lever will effectively be exerting its force on just one brake shoe. A dab of weld to build up and grind flat will help both shoes to press on the drum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) Hi, with the gearbox out I thought it is a good idea to make the modification on the handbrake leaver. If well recommended and standard on the TR6 everything should work fine? With the drill closer to the pivot point the leaver is shorter and pulls stronger on the cable - indeed, that's the case. But the way you can pull on the cables is much shorter by this modification! With all the play adjusted to zero it was anyway not possible to get the brake tight. This may be caused by a longer way needed by my BMW handbrake modification. The leaver was stopped in its way "up" by touching the connector piece #14, like a "overdo" hinge. If you do this modification you should have some attention on that point. What I did was to go back to the TR4A setup, to the lower original drill to get more way again. Ciao, Marco Edited May 23, 2020 by Z320 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
qkingston Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 As a matter of interest, I was working on the handbrake as part of the rebuild and managed to snap of the end of the bent rod which goes down from the button to the pawl. Having established that even RTR can't supply a replacement anymore, I have obtained a good Spitfire SH replacement item, which looks to be dimensionally exact with the TR4a, except the rod is straight and the pawl/ratchet arrangement is slightly different. However if I retain the Spitfire innards is there any reason this wouldn't work on the 4a? Regards David Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 hour ago, qkingston said: As a matter of interest, I was working on the handbrake as part of the rebuild and managed to snap of the end of the bent rod which goes down from the button to the pawl. Having established that even RTR can't supply a replacement anymore, I have obtained a good Spitfire SH replacement item, which looks to be dimensionally exact with the TR4a, except the rod is straight and the pawl/ratchet arrangement is slightly different. However if I retain the Spitfire innards is there any reason this wouldn't work on the 4a? Regards David Thats probably not a flyoff then. Same as TR5/6 type. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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