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TBH it looks like a pretty good basis to start with, the dent your on about in the arch is supposed to be there and you are missing the wing beadings on top of front and rear wings. The dash you have

Jase, I know these are strange times but I also live in Bridgend and have a 1962 TR4 and would normally offer you the opportunity to come and use as a reference or just a chat. Have you cont

Having spent quite a lot of time going through the car I decided to do an essential run today and drive it for the first time and pick up some petrol, just a few shots back on the drive and my essenti

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Did quite a bit today, printed the wheel centres:

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Unfortunately the wheel nuts aren't the right size for my hubs :( Ordered replacements from the TR shop, stainless with new washers.

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Also had a very pleasant surprise when I removed the front wheels, new suspension all around and discs and calipers, no rot on the inner arches.

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1 hour ago, Jase said:

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Its not completely clear, but I wonder if your upper fulcrum pins are wrongly oriented...its a common issue as the workshop manual uses a TR4 example and they switched the orientation on the IRS chassis...it goes the 'illogical' way round:

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I borrowed this photo from http://www.nonlintec.com/tr4a/suspension/#fulcrumpin there's a section on Fulcrum Pin Orientation about 1/3 down that page.

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38 minutes ago, Jase said:

The biggest let down of the car is the 'puny' ignition key, it's like a school locker key :( I'm guessing this is correct?

Original ignition key is Wilmot Breeden FS type, same as doors.  Many replacement switches have a punier wrong type of key..its a generic switch n key sold by many vendors.

The correct type of key: https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/key-fs-series-no-fs-881-key-fs881.html

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You might also like to have a look at the lower inner wishbone brackets where they are bolted to the chassis to see if they have been converted to 2 bolt fixings as opposed to the original and flimsy single bolt fixing.

Stuart.

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1 hour ago, stuart said:

You might also like to have a look at the lower inner wishbone brackets where they are bolted to the chassis to see if they have been converted to 2 bolt fixings as opposed to the original and flimsy single bolt fixing.

Stuart.

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Thanks, will check when I fit my new wheel nuts. Lots to learn on this car.

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Just some more updates, new Stainless wheel nuts and washers arrived today, slightly larger socket 3/8 so I managed to fit my 'new TR4A' wheel covers. Superb quality on the wheel nuts:

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Once I can get my hands on some silver wheel spray I'll refurb my wheels, have an inflatable sander which is superb for cleaning these up. Also had a chance to look at the chasis and wheel arches around the whole car today:

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Need to swat up on this rear suspension. It does look like there have been new UJs fitted and the grease nipple has been recently used so a mechanically well maintained car.

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Thought I would have a poke around the driver's wheel arch, was a bit worried about the inner wheel arch as there was a lot of underseal slapped on it:

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Not a fan of thick underseal, although when I started to pull it off I had a pleasant surprise.

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Didn't want to dig too deeply so I just gave it a coat of clear Dinitrol to protec it for the time being.

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Next job is to inject the chasis and spray Dinitrol over the underside of the car.

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Started rubbing down the wheels to etch prime and paint. I’m just tidying these bits up to make it a little more presentable while I plan out my restoration. Prepped a few sets of wheels with this little inflatable sander, gets the rust off fairly quickly and it only costs the paint

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On 5 June 2020 at 7:17 PM, Jase said:

Wonder how much this would cost today:

 

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Well it should've been £4441.61 then so he got overcharged by a penny!

To be honest some of the parts prices look a bit dubious to me. £82.90 plus vat for a set of hoses especially in those days seems quite steep since they're only about £40 now for a set?

 

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On 6 May 2020 at 11:41 PM, ctc77965o said:

Original ignition key is Wilmot Breeden FS type, same as doors.  Many replacement switches have a punier wrong type of key..its a generic switch n key sold by many vendors.

The correct type of key: https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/key-fs-series-no-fs-881-key-fs881.html

With regard to the original ignition switch, I'm considering fitting a steering lock/ ignition switch for some extra security for my TR4a, which was initially designated for the German market, Moss number 219061/1.

You'd probably need a column as well for the lock, but might be able to fit a TR6 column and switch maybe? I think you can also get a chrome blanking plug, as fitted to the Morris Minor and Midget I believe when they changed, which should fit in the TR dash hole as the ign switch should be the same size. Might have to adapt the wiring.

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11 hours ago, Jase said:

Just a few pics of the working car. Picking up some materials dor my spray booth today.

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Excellent thread. You've really brought out the beauty of this car Jase,  and I'm delighted to see it being used as a car rather than treated as if a Faberge egg.  

I'm similarly looking (and advertising) for exactly this sort of car, to likewise use as a driver - so should you happen across another then please drop me a line.

My best regards, Pete.    

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Thanks Pete, I'm slowly restoring but my intention is to use the car as I would have done in the 80s. Can't believe the smile on my face everytime I get in her.

I'd just keep an eye on the auctions and the usual TR restorers as they normally have cars that need work. I'd budget between £12-£14k for an example like this.

 

Good luck.

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« Just a few pics of the working car. Picking up some materials dor my spray booth today »

Your photo reminds me of Paul Good, known to many of us in the seventies and co-founder of the Chiltern Group. Paul was a chippy and thought nothing of hauling tools and timber in his Dove on a daily basis. Unfortunately he left us for ever many, many years ago.

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:( sounds like he left some wonderful memories for everyone. I just love this car and use it for everything as long as it isn’t raining. Want to avoid too much rust through wet carpets. I have very distinct memories of a chap who used his MGB all weathers and only ever used a tonneau. Sadly no longer with us but a hell of a character. I’d like to aspire to that once I’m happy that I have protected the floors properly. Thanks for sharing

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